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Old 02-28-2009, 04:13 PM   #11
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I was thinking the husband would have the ak but it was the wife!

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It did say the thieves shot first and they then returned fire,I bet they didnt do any more thieving that night. Had to go home and clean out their drawers.

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just think the next time they drive past that residence theyll be thinking, get me the hell away from here i would use the ak myself, i would let the little lady have that as i went at them with the handgun.

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NO BLOOD. Them two need to go to the range more.

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Old 02-28-2009, 09:51 PM   #15
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Definitely more range time needed. If you get that close with a 9MM let along the AK. Unless thy were just sending a message, could have got ticketed for shooting bullet's in the air.

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Six point checklist for when you are justified in Shooting a fleeing felon. All 6 must be present, but even then there is no guarantee you wont be charged.

1. Has to involve a heinous felony against a person, ex. murder, attempted murder, arson of occupied buildings, stranger kidnapping, violent sexual assault.
2. Felon must be known to you as the attacker, beyond a reasonable doubt that person is the attacker.
3. You should be identified or readily identifiable as the good guy.
4. The fleeing felon's escape is open ended, where capture is not immediate or immanent.
5. All other means of capture are failed or are no longer possible.
6. The felon's continued freedom presents a clear and present danger to innocent human life.
There is no duty to shoot a fleeing felon. You will not get into trouble if you do not shoot.

Texas is a relatively unique stuation! But even there, I would think twice about do I really want to shoot someone ripping off my car. What if it were some of my son's friends that he gave the keys to? What if it was the neighbor down the street just joyriding and doing stupid teenage pranks? What if a stray bullet goes into a neighbor's house and hits their 5 year old kid?
That is not quite correct. If the Felon is armed and retreating to a position of cover to gain an advantage over you, you may shoot him in the back before he can reach the cover. Make sure your assessment of the situation is the only one heard by the grand jury.

Even though Texas "allows" the use of deadly force to protect property, you are responsible for the destination of all projectiles you send down range. If you harm another (innocent party) THAT shooting can result in criminal charges (Aggravated Assault, Criminally Negligent Homicide, etc)

It is rarely a good idea to shoot at a fleeing Felon in any State.
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Another thought entered my mind. Did anyone besides the couple SEE the thieves? How far behind on the payments were they? Any good reason to believe this is not a set up to rid themselves of a car they are upside down on and can no longer afford?

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NO BLOOD. Them two need to go to the range more.
My exact thoughts,people,we need to practice,practice,and practice.I don't know how the rest of you feel but I'm pretty confident that I would of hit something within the the second or third round.Even with the adrenaline pumping,I'm sure I would've hit something !!

And here's a toast to this couple,even if there was no blood,I guess it's the thought that counts.
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NO BLOOD. Them two need to go to the range more.
Though you do need to consider that thease two were woken up at 2 in the morning, half naked, and shooting at a moving target WITH adrenalin to sweeten the deal.
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