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Old 02-15-2010, 03:19 AM   #1
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Sitting around a fire (with a couple of cold one's) the other night my buddy and I discussed the type of guns that would make a complete collection. Collection probably isn't the right word because we're not talking about truly "collectible" weapons but rather an "assortment" of firearms that would prove to be useful in a wide variety of hunting, sporting and other shooting activities.

We're not talking about "gun safe queens" here, we're talking about firearms that you would go out a use, regularly. So, in our infinite wisdom, here's what we came up with.

Handguns
1.) .22 caliber semi-automatic (a must have for plinking)
2.) Small frame concealed carry handgun (.380, 9mm, .38 or etc....)
3.) Full frame semi-automatic 9mm or .40
4.) 1911 style .45
5.) .357 revolver

Long guns and shotguns
1.) .22 semi automatic (due to the infinite accessories available we decided a Ruger 1022 would be the perfect fit)
2.) .223 or 7.62mm sport utility weapon (Mini-14/30, AR15, AK clone or etc....)
3.) Deer rifle that could also be used for larger game like elk, caribou and black bear - .308, .30-06 or .300mag
4.) Model 94 Winchester 30-30 (since we're not talking collectibles here it doesn't have to be pre-1964)
5.) 12 gauge semi-auto shotgun
6.) 12 gauge double barrel - just because they look cool (side by side or over-under)

We figure that you could acquire good quality models of all these guns for between $5,500 and $6,000 at today's prices. Not chump change, but most could swing this amount over several years.

What do you think? What did we leave out? What have we included that makes no sense?

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I pretty much have what's on your list, or at least close enough. I'd like a coach gun because they are cool. I'd also like to pick up a KelTec SU 16 in 5.56. They're light, compact and pretty tough. (I had one and sold it )

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I would replace the 12 ga semi with a 12 ga pump just for simplicity and function in more extreme conditions. Jmho.

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Sitting around a fire (with a couple of cold one's) the other night my buddy and I discussed the type of guns that would make a complete collection. Collection probably isn't the right word because we're not talking about truly "collectible" weapons but rather an "assortment" of firearms that would prove to be useful in a wide variety of hunting, sporting and other shooting activities.

We're not talking about "gun safe queens" here, we're talking about firearms that you would go out a use, regularly. So, in our infinite wisdom, here's what we came up with.

Handguns
1.) .22 caliber semi-automatic (a must have for plinking)
2.) Small frame concealed carry handgun (.380, 9mm, .38 or etc....)
3.) Full frame semi-automatic 9mm or .40
4.) 1911 style .45
5.) .357 revolver

Long guns and shotguns
1.) .22 semi automatic (due to the infinite accessories available we decided a Ruger 1022 would be the perfect fit)
2.) .223 or 7.62mm sport utility weapon (Mini-14/30, AR15, AK clone or etc....)
3.) Deer rifle that could also be used for larger game like elk, caribou and black bear - .308, .30-06 or .300mag
4.) Model 94 Winchester 30-30 (since we're not talking collectibles here it doesn't have to be pre-1964)
5.) 12 gauge semi-auto shotgun
6.) 12 gauge double barrel - just because they look cool (side by side or over-under)

We figure that you could acquire good quality models of all these guns for between $5,500 and $6,000 at today's prices. Not chump change, but most could swing this amount over several years.

What do you think? What did we leave out? What have we included that makes no sense?
Handguns
1.) .22 caliber semi-automatic (a must have for plinking) I wouldn't limit this to an autoloader. A Ruger single six or a Smith and Wesson 617 would work.
2.) Small frame concealed carry handgun (.380, 9mm, .38 or etc....) Ruger LCR or LCP.
3.) Full frame semi-automatic 9mm or .40 Browning High Power 9mm
4.) 1911 style .45 Colt Light Weight Commander model O4860XSE and any Colt Government model.
5.) .357 revolver Colt Python and a Smith and Wesson in .44 magnum.

Long guns and shotguns
1.) .22 semi automatic (due to the infinite accessories available we decided a Ruger 1022 would be the perfect fit) Don't overlook the Marlin 60!
2.) .223 or 7.62mm sport utility weapon (Mini-14/30, AR15, AK clone or etc....) Any or all of those and you should build the AR.
3.) Deer rifle that could also be used for larger game like elk, caribou and black bear - .308, .30-06 or .300mag Yep.
4.) Model 94 Winchester 30-30 (since we're not talking collectibles here it doesn't have to be pre-1964) Nice but not required.
5.) 12 gauge semi-auto shotgun I agree with Skull on the pump with a short & long barrel.
6.) 12 gauge double barrel - just because they look cool (side by side or over-under) Dead weight.
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Handguns
1.) .22 caliber semi-automatic (a must have for plinking)
2.) Small frame concealed carry handgun (.380, 9mm, .38 or etc....)
3.) Full frame semi-automatic 9mm or .40
4.) 1911 style .45
5.) .357 revolver

Long guns and shotguns
1.) .22 semi automatic (due to the infinite accessories available we decided a Ruger 1022 would be the perfect fit)
2.) .223 or 7.62mm sport utility weapon (Mini-14/30, AR15, AK clone or etc....)
3.) Deer rifle that could also be used for larger game like elk, caribou and black bear - .308, .30-06 or .300mag
4.) Model 94 Winchester 30-30 (since we're not talking collectibles here it doesn't have to be pre-1964)
5.) 12 gauge semi-auto shotgun
6.) 12 gauge double barrel - just because they look cool (side by side or over-under)
Okay, it's a good list. You have some sound choices, but if I may, I would suggest just a couple of modifications to save on $$$

Numbers 1,3 and 4 can ALL be handled by a 1911 frame with some extra features such as barrel changes and magazines in different calibers. My Kimber 1911 has both a .45 barrel, and a .22lr change out kit. I also have a 9mm 1911 for my woman that I can purchase a .45ACP barrel and mags and be good to switch back and forth.

Numbers 2 and 5 can be the same revolver if you play your cards correctly. .357 magnum and .38 special which would fit several SHTF needs and there is no reason your .357 has to be an 8" Dirty Harry edition. IMO, YMMV.

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1 & 2 can be combined in the AR realm. Buy a .223/5.56 chamber and get a .22lr conversion. The .22lr can take small game and the .223/5.56 can take a lot of North American game.

3 is a great choice. But I personally feel that everyone needs some sort of .308 in the safe because it is a common round.

4 is a horrible choice in my opinion. This weapon reproduces several fields that 2 and 3 can serve for you. While I have an 1894 in 44.-40 that is worth a ton, it's not in my End of the World part of the safe.

5 & 6 should be condensed into one weapon with an undertube magazine like the 870 or the 500. There is no reason to pack both and the 870 and Mossberg 500 have taken a TON of birds, animals and two legged predators off the "living" list for years.

That should save you some coin and leave more money for ammo and for carry accessories....

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Handguns
1.) .22 caliber semi-automatic (a must have for plinking)
2.) Small frame concealed carry handgun (.380, 9mm, .38 or etc....)
3.) Full frame semi-automatic 9mm or .40
4.) 1911 style .45
5.) .357 revolver

Long guns and shotguns
1.) .22 semi automatic (due to the infinite accessories available we decided a Ruger 1022 would be the perfect fit)
2.) .223 or 7.62mm sport utility weapon (Mini-14/30, AR15, AK clone or etc....)
3.) Deer rifle that could also be used for larger game like elk, caribou and black bear - .308, .30-06 or .300mag
4.) Model 94 Winchester 30-30 (since we're not talking collectibles here it doesn't have to be pre-1964)
5.) 12 gauge semi-auto shotgun
6.) 12 gauge double barrel - just because they look cool (side by side or over-under)

I don't worry about the cost of "plinking" because I'm lucky enough to still be employed at a very well paying job (I'm also single, no outstanding bills and live in a nice, inexpensive apartment).

Small frame for concealed carry is covered by my Walther PPS .40 cal.

Full frame semi covered by Beretta PX4 Storm (9mm) and Sig Sauer P226 (.40 cal)

1911 style .45 is something I don't have yet and am actively pursuing as a purchase within the next few weeks or so.

A revolver is also on that "active purchase" list but I'm not going to limit it to just a .357.

A .22 cal long gun isn't in the works but I do have 2 (.22 LR and .22 Magnum) somewhere at my parents' house.

Already have a 5.56 Colt AR-15 with a scope mounted on the carry handle. The AK-47 is a Romanian model with no other extras other than quite a few 30-round mags. Same for the AR in the 30-round mag situation.

Deer rifle/Winchester could be satisfied with my Romanian PSL with scope. 7.62 x 54R which is relatively easy (for now) to get ammunition for. Or I could pick up a scoped Saiga .308 semi auto.

12 ga shotgun is another "future" purchase, either a Mossberg 500 or Saiga or both. No need for a double barrel, for my needs anyway.

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Great additions to the list and great comments.

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