[G21.45]

Originally Posted by gorknoids

Hiroshima? Nagasaki?

Not really! (I was waiting for someone to bring this up.)

The war with Japan ended - and was not fought - with atomic bombs. The gist of this thread revolves around those close quarter battle implements used to slaughter and kill people everyday. Atom bombs don't really fit into the same category as the much more commonly used Garand (or AK-47) rifle.

[bkt]

Originally Posted by G21.45

Huh! Why is it always a moderator?

Originally Posted by G21.45

Stirrups! What, the heck, are you drinking?

At the time, I was putting down a Smutty Nose Shoals Pale Ale (they were out of the India Pale Ale). But that's moot, as I was only on my first one.

Originally Posted by G21.45

(The Mongols and the Huns didn't use them; and, look at the havoc they caused!)

Sure, plenty of wars were fought prior to something being invented. One might argue that riding a horse at all was the single greatest invention. Or maybe flint knapping was. Or maybe the chariot, saddle, bow, armor, etc.

In point of fact, it was the Europeans who adapted the stirrup around 700AD who pushed back the Huns, which was no small feat. (The Huns knew about stirrups but often didn't use them.)

If we're talking the single most effective killing machine, the nuclear bomb probably wins hands down.

But since this is a firearms forum, maybe it's best to consider them only. The AK-47 has probably been used to kill more people than any other single firearm.

[opaww]

The M1 grand first then battlefield Communications With battlefield comms. I can call indirect fire, fire suppression missions, Air strikes, have troops rearranged to meat the enemy, give intel. reports on enemy troop movements, equipment and strengths, Call for medical aid or evac.

[bluesteel762x51]

Your sentments is exactly how I feel about my Garand. I recently put four shots into the same hole using that Greek stuff that is on the market right now. I shot eight times and only saw five holes on the paper. It was truly amazing. The rifle did it. I could never shoot that good.

[bluesteel762x51]

VT and proximaty fuses? This is why I love this forum. I had never thought about it, but yes another excellent input. It is funny how much one learns when one asks his learned colleagues.

Dave

[bluesteel762x51]

When I was studying the history of technology at the U of Houston stirrups were mentioned as a MAJOR leap in technology.

[bluesteel762x51]

Hmmm....I guess it would be just in the developed for and used during WW2, even though mules, carrier pigeons, sailboats, and swords were used. I hope that makes it a bit clearer.