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Old 06-01-2009, 07:15 AM   #101
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AdAstra2009, a man who believes in god is certainly religious, but a man who is religious may or may not believe in god.

Gojubrian, atheists cannot really be considered self centered for ignoring the divine word, because they do not believe in the divine word.



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AdAstra2009, a man who believes in god is certainly religious, but a man who is religious may or may not believe in god.

Gojubrian, atheists cannot really be considered self centered for ignoring the divine word, because they do not believe in the divine word.
They are not self centered because they do not believe the divine word. My point is they are self centered because they believe their own intellect.

Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. (KJV)

2 Corinthians 1:9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead: (KJV)

Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. (KJV)

Phillipians 4:7
And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
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Excuse me for not participating in this... There is no resolution for either side and it's a source of perpetual aggravation.

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Excuse me for not participating in this... There is no resolution for either side and it's a source of perpetual aggravation.
Sounds like a description of Congress.
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The main reason for not believing in evolution is that you can't see it. Well of course you can't see it in the span of time our lives are but a speck of dust on the timeline of the universe. The earth is 4.55 billion years (plus or minus about 1%)

So if you take the 450 feet and divided it up by 4.5 billon years each year is 0.0000001' so if you live to be 100 years old your life span is only 0.00001 feet long or 30.48 microns. Not a lot of time in the entire span of the universe when you think of it that way. According to Nat Geo Humans have been here for aprox 60,000 years that is a whipping 0.006' using our above proportions that is 0.072" that is it a little under 3/4" is the entire time humans have been on earth. out of 450'. Not a very big chunk is it.

Why what are you getting at. Well we don't see evolution because we are here for a very shot time. Evolution takes millions of years.

Now I see someone said something about mutations. AAAA did you know that many of the cat breeds we have to day are really genetic mutations that just happen in nature.

Take the Scottish Fold. A recent addition to the world of cats.

In 1961 a shepherd by the name of William Ross spotted the first known Scottish Fold cat at a farm near Coupar Angus in the Tayside Region of Scotland, Northwest of Dundee.

That right there is a mutation and from there they refined the breed to what it is today.

Here is another one the Devon Rex.
This is evolution at a rapid pace. Same with fish in the congo river.

In 1959, a Miss Cox of Devonshire England found that a stray cat in her care had given birth to a rather odd looking curly-haired kitten, the sire thought to be a curly-haired tomcat seen in the area. Delighted with the kitten's elfin features and wavy curls, she named him Kirlee -- the founding father of the unique and wonderful breed of cats known today as the Devon Rex.

I do not discount god at all. But I do believe there is a place for both in the world and that they work together.

I do not believe that god created man in the way the bible tells us. I believe that god created the earth and made it viable for us and he is watching up grow and mature. When have reached the point that we can solve our own problems he will reveal himself unto us.

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Well if it is evolution then Tiller The Baby Killer was just another animal that died , if Creationism , then he split Hell wide open yesterday .

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They are not self centered because they do not believe the divine word. My point is they are self centered because they believe their own intellect.
X2 It's that "oh with science we are unstoppable and allpowerful" attitude.
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Well if it is evolution then Tiller The Baby Killer was just another animal that died , if Creationism , then he split Hell wide open yesterday .
Also the "suvival of the fittest" principle was satisfied...
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Also the "suvival of the fittest" principle was satisfied...
Not survival of the fittest is wrong it is survival of the fit.
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X2 It's that "oh with science we are unstoppable and allpowerful" attitude.
Science does not try to claim that it is all powerful, it simply states this is what can be proven through observation, nothing more. Hence science does not disprove God.


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