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Old 04-21-2010, 09:49 AM   #11
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Thing is, non-union companies are moving their work off shore as well

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Well I am not made in china, but I can't cut steaks worth a dam either

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I just pick up my steaks and bite them.

Dune, I understand your frustration and I share it. try to find quality car parts now a days...everything comes from China or Korea.

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I totally agree. There was a time when unions were needed to protect workers from slave driving employers. But with the government intervention that is now in the workplace, unions have become nothing other than self serving. It has gotten to the point where you can't fire someone for the simple fact that they SUCK AT THEIR JOB. It is simply more cost effective and productive to send jobs elsewhere. I don't even have a union where I work. I had an employee win an unemployment dispute. They claimed that they didn't know they would get fired if they simply never returned to work! The unemployment official asked if I had ever told them. What??!! We certainly don't need unions anymore. The government is doing a great job of protecting the lazy all by themselves!

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This is going to be my quest from this time on, to not buy anything that isn't MADE IN the USA!! Failing that, I will settle for Assembled in the USA, but that is the only concession I'm making.
Someone should make a website like Amazon but only list products that are made in America. There would be a good size market for it, but I don't know how many products they would have listed.
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I look for quality, craftsmanship, strength and reliability in everything I purchase. From cars to guns to tools, and to the line trimmer I use on the yard.

I don't care where it is made and I don't care that I bought it in Walmart, just as long as it stands up, is reliable and has a warranty.

I concur that Unions had their day back when and fought for competitive wages and protected the worker, they had a purpose then and I was proud to buy anything made in the U.S. if it was quality, and you can find it anymore, but today, their wage demands, the greed and play for power, not to mention the internal corruptness that always seems to be present in ranking board members and officers, have driven most Unions and their quality of workmanship down in the market place and to where they are today....outsourced.

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When the Army switched to black berets we were more than a little ticked to find that they were MADE IN CHINA!
That's another bone of contention for me!

The Army going PC? Let's put every desk pough in a black berret so everyone "feels" elite? WTF?

I was light infantry for 6 years. I was never a member of 1 of the 3 Ranger Battalions, therefore I had no expectation or right to the Black Berrett.

That move in this vet's opinion was complete PC BS.
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I needed some basesball caps for my company. Spent a whole day looking for "MADE IN USA" caps online, but no dice. Finally, I called Mark LaRue to see where he gets his excellent hats and he sheepishly said they were made offshore. Nobody in the US makes caps anymore? Jeez. He looked around for a couple of weeks and could not find any.

But we refused to buy "MADE IN CHINA" hats.

Hmmm. Your search-fu appears weak.

A quick google of "baseball caps made in USA" turned up 416,000
hits.

Union Made in USA Pro Mesh
http://www.oldrip.com/
Welcome to Competition Headwear

And a whole lot more.

I do agree--it's getting darned hard to buy US products.
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I needed some basesball caps for my company. Spent a whole day looking for "MADE IN USA" caps online, but no dice. Finally, I called Mark LaRue to see where he gets his excellent hats and he sheepishly said they were made offshore. Nobody in the US makes caps anymore? Jeez. He looked around for a couple of weeks and could not find any.

But we refused to buy "MADE IN CHINA" hats.
New Era: Officially licensed 59fifty baseball, NHL and Negro league hats and caps.
Not cheap but made in Buffalo....
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Thing is, non-union companies are moving their work off shore as well
That's why I NOTED "minimum wage" laws.

Used to be a time when an entry level job was just that, you started for peanuts and if you had the work ethic and drive to succeed, you did.

The "evil" compaines , can't employ anyone if there products do not turn a proffit and everytime the Gov't regulates wages and bennifits they drive up the cost of production, de-motivate the work force, and hamper domestic factories ability to compete with overseas production.

Remember that the next time your politician promises a "living wage job".
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