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EricM 01-07-2009 06:12 PM

Ever had a gun stolen
 
Hello my name is Eric Minton. My good friend had a firearm stolen November 2008. The theft occurred in the small town of Leitchfield, KY. A report was made to the local sheriff, fliers were posted and handed out in our town, as well as, the surrounding communities. An ad was placed in the local newspaper for a month offering a reward. Because my friend wanted more exposure he searched the web for a place to submit his stolen gun, after several hours of searching, he realized no such site existed.
It was that mindset that www.stolenweapon.com was created. A website designed exclusively with the victim of gun theft in mind. In order for us as individuals to preserve our rights we must take initiatives and become proactive in order to prevent governmental gun control. The major negative stigma associated with firearms are gun crimes, but as we all know guns don’t commit crimes, people do. If legislation was passed to control gun ownership it would only hinder and disarm law abiding citizens because criminals would not register guns.
Although gun recovery is difficult, it is not our websites only purpose. At the moment, a stolen weapon is instant cash for any thief, but with our websites capability it will now allow the general public to privately and easily identify a stolen weapon. This will ultimately drive down the value of these weapons; therefore, preventing and deterring a thief from stealing firearms. Unfortunately, there will always be thieves, but who would buy, trade, or sell a firearm they know has been stolen except thieves, and who likes or wants to deal with thieves. By allowing individuals to check our website for stolen weapons this will potentially help reduce crime rates, which threaten our individual freedoms to own guns.
It was explained to us that the majority of the local law enforcement agencies will not run gun checks for the general public. As we all know the NCIC exists, but it is only available for law enforcement use. Law enforcement plays a vital role in the recovery of stolen weapons and we totally support the service they provide. With over 500,000 weapons stolen annually in the U.S. alone we feel there is room for us to make a difference.
www.stolenweapon.com is completely free. It allows individuals, traders, gun shops, buyers, sellers etc….a viable, interactive opportunity to list and also search for stolen firearms. We understand that victims of gun theft (gun owners) want their personal information kept private and we respect the right to privacy; therefore, the personal and serial number information submitted by a victim is completely private and encrypted with a RIJNDAEL_256 bit encrypted string. This information is not stored in any type of readable form in our database and no one else is able to view the submitted information. If a searcher (anyone searching weapons) performs a general weapons description search without a serial number, only those weapons that match the description will show up with the state it was stolen from. The submitters (victim of gun theft) personal information and serial numbers are not viewable. If a searcher performs a serial number search and there is a positive match to the serial number in the database, then an alert is sent to the searcher that the weapon is stolen. Also, an alert is sent to the original submitter. The submitter is then free to contact his/her local law enforcement agency. Only serial number matches trigger alerts.
The www.stolenweapon.com site has been designed in a cut and dry fashion in order to keep it quick and easy. This format keeps the site accessible for everyone to use and does not distract the user from its original purpose. Please know we are dedicated to serving your needs and will be constantly evolving to meet them.

Thank You,
Stolen Weapon Team/Co-founder, Eric Minton Radcliff, KY
info@stolenweapon.com

matt g 01-07-2009 08:03 PM

Awesome idea. Here in Cali, the numbers on the gun get run with every transfer. This will be a powerful tool for use outside the states that do this though. I really hope it gains a foot hold.

pioneer461 01-07-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by matt g (Post 60407)
Awesome idea. Here in Cali, the numbers on the gun get run with every transfer. This will be a powerful tool for use outside the states that do this though. I really hope it gains a foot hold.

Matt,
Does that include transfers between private citizens, or only with a dealer involved? I wonder if criminals report each time they transfer one? If California residents have to report private sales, I'm even more glad that I left there.

Eric's web site is a good idea, and as the old saying goes; "It couldn't hoit." The weak link in any reporting and recovery system, is for the lawful owner to know and report the gun's serial number. I can't tell you how many times over the years, while taking a report on a gun theft, the victim did not know the serial number. Sometime down the road, when officers find the gun, or it gets sold to a pawn shop, nobody knows it's hot. We would do an ATF trace, but that only tells us who the original buyer was. Further tracing depends on good old fashioned police work, but sadly most thefts go un-investigated because of budget and manpower restrictions. A more thorough investigation is usually only done when the gun is used in a murder.

Please folks, write down your serial numbers and keep them in a safe place. Prevent thefts by investing in a quality gun safe, securely mounted. Metal cabinets and wooden display cases only slow them down, but just a little. Most burglars know where most people leave valuables, including guns. Under beds, in closets, etc., and they aren't too shy about trashing your house to look for them.


matt g 01-07-2009 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pioneer461 (Post 60437)
Matt,
Does that include transfers between private citizens, or only with a dealer involved? I wonder if criminals report each time they transfer one? If California residents have to report private sales, I'm even more glad that I left there.

It is illegal to make transfers without using an FFL in Cali.

hillbilly68 01-07-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by matt g (Post 60441)
It is illegal to make transfers without using an FFL in Cali.


Jeeeebus, I was blisfully unaware. My wife is from Cali, and I love it there. I would live in California...if it wasn't California.

matt g 01-07-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hillbilly68 (Post 60476)
Jeeeebus, I was blisfully unaware. My wife is from Cali, and I love it there. I would live in California...if it wasn't California.

It's 75 degrees outside right now. I have 5 large lakes that are within an hour drive of my house and countless other small to medium sized lakes within the same drive. I'm 2 hours from the Sierra Nevadas, Trinity Alps Wilderness Area and Siskiyou Wilderness Area. I'm 2 hours from the coast and 2 hours from desert. I'm currently an hour drive from 10+ feet of snow.

Redding is a geographically perfect area to live in. Unfortunately, it's plagued by Southern and Bay Area California's politics. On the up side of things, there is another good push by the Jefferson State movement underway right now.

EricM 01-08-2009 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pioneer461 (Post 60437)
Matt,
Does that include transfers between private citizens, or only with a dealer involved? I wonder if criminals report each time they transfer one? If California residents have to report private sales, I'm even more glad that I left there.

Eric's web site is a good idea, and as the old saying goes; "It couldn't hoit." The weak link in any reporting and recovery system, is for the lawful owner to know and report the gun's serial number. I can't tell you how many times over the years, while taking a report on a gun theft, the victim did not know the serial number. Sometime down the road, when officers find the gun, or it gets sold to a pawn shop, nobody knows it's hot. We would do an ATF trace, but that only tells us who the original buyer was. Further tracing depends on good old fashioned police work, but sadly most thefts go un-investigated because of budget and manpower restrictions. A more thorough investigation is usually only done when the gun is used in a murder.

Please folks, write down your serial numbers and keep them in a safe place. Prevent thefts by investing in a quality gun safe, securely mounted. Metal cabinets and wooden display cases only slow them down, but just a little. Most burglars know where most people leave valuables, including guns. Under beds, in closets, etc., and they aren't too shy about trashing your house to look for them.


Please folks, write down your serial numbers and keep them in a safe place. Prevent thefts by investing in a quality gun safe, securely mounted. Metal cabinets and wooden display cases only slow them down, but just a little. Most burglars know where most people leave valuables, including guns. Under beds, in closets, etc., and they aren't too shy about trashing your house to look for them.

Thanks guys for the replies and please visit site. Great advice from pioneer461

cpttango30 01-09-2009 03:10 AM

Matt you live in Redding?

I grew up in Corning. Small world.


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