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06-12-2012, 11:10 PM
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Ethical Question: Conversion Barrels
I'm all for any and all gun rights. Personally I don't think any law should be imposed on anything to do with guns, but that is another topic.
Despite my feelings I can't help but wonder if conversion barrels are a good thing. Image a guy has a .40S&W, we will say Glock for this example. He gets a 9MM Lone Wolf conversion barrel for it. Goes out, kills someone, puts the factory barrel back in and destroys the conversion barrel.
Now the cops are out there looking for a 9MM, and he has a .40S&W.
Thoughts? Feels like this is something we should not allow. I'm conflicted.
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06-12-2012, 11:24 PM
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We know such conversions exist. Ballistics comparisons on bullets are a thing of the past. The shell casing is the object of comparison now. I guess you can buy another slide and replace the ejector in addition to the barrel, so you might just as well get another gun for the money it would take to "rebuild" the murder weapon.
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06-12-2012, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nukinfuts29
I'm all for any and all gun rights. Personally I don't think any law should be imposed on anything to do with guns, but that is another topic.
Despite my feelings I can't help but wonder if conversion barrels are a good thing. Image a guy has a .40S&W, we will say Glock for this example. He gets a 9MM Lone Wolf conversion barrel for it. Goes out, kills someone, puts the factory barrel back in and destroys the conversion barrel.
Now the cops are out there looking for a 9MM, and he has a .40S&W.
Thoughts? Feels like this is something we should not allow. I'm conflicted.
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Anything can be used wrong. You could just destroy a gun or change out the barrel extractor and firing pin. The thing is it is all premeditated so it is the act of a criminal and they will find a way. For myself I have inserts for my DB 12ga so if I don't have shotgun shells I can use other ammo. Those of us that keep it legal shouldnt be ruled by what someone with criminal intent might do.
other ammo
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Last edited by bearrwe; 06-12-2012 at 11:34 PM.
Reason: auto correct did me in again!
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06-12-2012, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by robocop10mm
We know such conversions exist. Ballistics comparisons on bullets are a thing of the past. The shell casing is the object of comparison now. I guess you can buy another slide and replace the ejector in addition to the barrel, so you might just as well get another gun for the money it would take to "rebuild" the murder weapon.
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I never thought about the casing and the ejector, good points.
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06-13-2012, 12:21 AM
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I could use a Dan Wesson, leave no casings at the site of the deed, swap barrels in 30 seconds, and melt the barrel.
Or I could spend an hour buffing the bore with J-B Bore shine, and you will play hell getting a ballsitic match.
BTW, I shoot some Remington Accelerator rifle loads. Ever see those? Bullet is in a plastic sabot, which usually travels only a couple of feet. Bullets never touch the rifling, and have NO markings of lands and grooves.
The same gasoline you put in your car is used to make firebombs. You cannot legislate morality- you can only punish misdeeds.
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06-13-2012, 12:24 AM
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Not sure why i even questioned myself. Momentary lapse I guess
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06-13-2012, 01:02 AM
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How would you feel about my Medusa?? 20+ calibers from the same revolver...
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06-13-2012, 01:07 AM
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The same gasoline you put in your car is used to make firebombs.
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hey now, you have no proof that that was the intent of what i was doing
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06-13-2012, 03:58 AM
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hey now, you have no proof
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06-13-2012, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by robocop10mm
We know such conversions exist. Ballistics comparisons on bullets are a thing of the past. The shell casing is the object of comparison now. I guess you can buy another slide and replace the ejector in addition to the barrel, so you might just as well get another gun for the money it would take to "rebuild" the murder weapon.
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^ that plus most criminals are not smart enough to think of doing that. The ones that are smart enough usually get away with it. For instance murders where the perpetrater is a stranger to the victim have a very low solve rate to begin with and when the murderer does anything to throw off investigators it usually isn't solved. These murders go unsolved because the first thing most investigations consider is motive and, when someone's motive is just to commit murder on someone they usually have planned it and have forensic counter measures.
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