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It wanted to see if dogs had a "flexible understanding" that could show they understood the viewpoint of a human.
Dog's understanding

It found that when the lights were turned off, dogs in a room with their human owners were much more likely to disobey and steal forbidden food.

The study says it is "unlikely that the dogs simply forgot that the human was in the room" when there was no light. Instead it seems as though the dogs were able to differentiate between when the human was unable or able to see them.

The experiments had been designed with enough variations to avoid false associations - such as dogs beginning to associate sudden darkness with someone giving them food, researchers said.

Dr Juliane Kaminski, from the University of Portsmouth's psychology department, said the study was "incredible because it implies dogs understand the human can't see them, meaning they might understand the human perspective".

This could also be important in understanding the capacities of dogs that have to interact closely with humans, such as guide dogs for the blind and sniffer dogs.

Previous studies have suggested that although humans might think that they can recognise different expressions on their dogs' faces, this is often inaccurate and a projection of human emotions.

"Humans constantly attribute certain qualities and emotions to other living things. We know that our own dog is clever or sensitive, but that's us thinking, not them," said Dr Kaminski.

"These results suggest humans might be right, where dogs are concerned, but we still can't be completely sure if the results mean dogs have a truly flexible understanding of the mind and others' minds. It has always been assumed only humans had this ability."
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Wouldn't work on cats, 'cause they just don't care.

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Gidget Here:-and yes , I'm Dango's dog ! This look's my field of expretease !
"Flexible understanding" you say? What do you expect?. shall I bitch slap you to gain some (Flexible Understanding ? Yes , I am aware you are here . OK ?

Maybe piss on you or hump your leg ? What do you require ? all ears here ?

What makes you think it required, that I require "acknowledgement" ,..any at all ? You are her enough said..!

Maybe have a T-bone in your paw..! That'll get it every-time "NIM-ROD" !

ME:-Gidget , Off my PC. ..NOW..!

Well...You heard him .., ..got to go .........!

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Wouldn't work on cats, 'cause they just don't care.
Honey badgers don't care. Cats are to stupid to know the difference.
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It wanted to see if dogs had a "flexible understanding" that could show they understood the viewpoint of a human.
Limitation of the study: I'd buy the story if the same dogs stopped stealing my chicken wings after getting beaten for taking them in the first place, regardless of whether the lights went off or not. That would be my definition of "flexible understanding."
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Do you know dogs can find all kinds of things. In a dogs life he must find gold and money enough to make him rich. But here is the "Hitch" dogs do not have pockets! Don't matter what they find they have no where to put their wealth. Yep, it is pockets that really separates man an dog.

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A dog's view on life: If you can't eat it or fu%k it, piss on it.

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Could be even Lassie lied, she was a boy.

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Cats are to stupid to know the difference.
It's an act to fool the dolphins.
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