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Old 05-25-2015, 08:07 PM   #1
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Default The dirtiest gun I have ever cleaned

Just finished up- for now.

I thought I had seen some cruddy guns. M-60s that shot thousands of rounds on a training range. Rifles that had been slept with in a swamp for a month. Old side by side shotguns that had never been taken down for cleaning. S&Ws from a small sheriff's dept that had not been out of the holster in 6 years.

I was wrong. I had not yet seen the REALLY dirty gun. Until today.

The culprit- a .22 caliber Ruger. Call it a Mk 1. When it was made in 1957, there was no Mk II. It was a Ruger .22 auto pistol. I picked this up for a song at a local dealer. It is wearing a ported bull barrel, a non-standard micrometer rear sight, and a set over oversized walnut target stocks. Overtravel screw in the trigger. And it was D I R T Y. But it shot well.

Today was cleaning day. I marshaled the forces of light, got my big sippy cup of iced tea, and a good spot in the shade on the back deck. The gun came apart without great fuss, just gentle persuasion with a plastic faced mallet. OH. MY. LORD.

I really do not think this gun has been cleaned since it left Bill Ruger's place. The bore was not bad- except the ported section, with has at least 1/8th of an inch of carbon inside. THAT got a soak in Kroil. Bore got a scrub with Hoppes and a brass brush. Bolt went INTO the bottle of Hoppes.

But the action! Ahhhh! Or more correctly- ARRRGGGHHH! Not just the chamber area and the bolt channel- there was dirt all the way down the mag well. There was enuff wax in the trigger group I could have put a wick in there, and used it for a birthday candle.

Soaked metal with Hoppes. While soaking, used a small pick to pull out chunks of wax (powder solvent does not work worth a hoot on wax)

Finally tally- 1 can spray gunscrubber, 1 full LARGE can of carb cleaner, 1/2 large bottle of Hoppes. dose of Kroil, 20 Q-tips, 20 patches. 2 large clean rags. Final spray down with CLP, wipe down, re-assembly.

Will head for the range next weekend, but I find it astounding that this one shot at all. 58 years old and still shooting.

I think the EPA sees me as a hazardous waste generator, and the gun may be lighter now.


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Sounds like you need an ultrasonic cleaner.


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After THIS one, I have given serious thought to that!
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Just finished up- for now.

I thought I had seen some cruddy guns. M-60s that shot thousands of rounds on a training range. Rifles that had been slept with in a swamp for a month. Old side by side shotguns that had never been taken down for cleaning. S&Ws from a small sheriff's dept that had not been out of the holster in 6 years.

I was wrong. I had not yet seen the REALLY dirty gun. Until today.

The culprit- a .22 caliber Ruger. Call it a Mk 1. When it was made in 1957, there was no Mk II. It was a Ruger .22 auto pistol. I picked this up for a song at a local dealer. It is wearing a ported bull barrel, a non-standard micrometer rear sight, and a set over oversized walnut target stocks. Overtravel screw in the trigger. And it was D I R T Y. But it shot well.

Today was cleaning day. I marshaled the forces of light, got my big sippy cup of iced tea, and a good spot in the shade on the back deck. The gun came apart without great fuss, just gentle persuasion with a plastic faced mallet. OH. MY. LORD.

I really do not think this gun has been cleaned since it left Bill Ruger's place. The bore was not bad- except the ported section, with has at least 1/8th of an inch of carbon inside. THAT got a soak in Kroil. Bore got a scrub with Hoppes and a brass brush. Bolt went INTO the bottle of Hoppes.

But the action! Ahhhh! Or more correctly- ARRRGGGHHH! Not just the chamber area and the bolt channel- there was dirt all the way down the mag well. There was enuff wax in the trigger group I could have put a wick in there, and used it for a birthday candle.

Soaked metal with Hoppes. While soaking, used a small pick to pull out chunks of wax (powder solvent does not work worth a hoot on wax)

Finally tally- 1 can spray gunscrubber, 1 full LARGE can of carb cleaner, 1/2 large bottle of Hoppes. dose of Kroil, 20 Q-tips, 20 patches. 2 large clean rags. Final spray down with CLP, wipe down, re-assembly.

Will head for the range next weekend, but I find it astounding that this one shot at all. 58 years old and still shooting.

I think the EPA sees me as a hazardous waste generator, and the gun may be lighter now.
Beats my worst. A Charter arms AR7 Explorer that had not been cleaned since the second owner bought it in 1990. The rifle was pretty much a single shot by thr tine I bought it as it would jam every other round. Total tear down and an overnight soak in gunzilla followed by some serious brushing wore out a military "toothbrush") copper brush down the barrel, and a quick look up for an exploded view online, I was able to get it to fire 3 to 4 rounds between jams.

Chaber work and magazine fitting fixed that problem in the end, and not it get a cleaning each time it is taken out to the range, and twice a year if it is just sitting around. There should be laws against neglecting a firearm to that degree.
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Just finished up- for now.

I thought I had seen some cruddy guns. M-60s that shot thousands of rounds on a training range. Rifles that had been slept with in a swamp for a month. Old side by side shotguns that had never been taken down for cleaning. S&Ws from a small sheriff's dept that had not been out of the holster in 6 years.

I was wrong. I had not yet seen the REALLY dirty gun. Until today.

The culprit- a .22 caliber Ruger. Call it a Mk 1. When it was made in 1957, there was no Mk II. It was a Ruger .22 auto pistol. I picked this up for a song at a local dealer. It is wearing a ported bull barrel, a non-standard micrometer rear sight, and a set over oversized walnut target stocks. Overtravel screw in the trigger. And it was D I R T Y. But it shot well.

Today was cleaning day. I marshaled the forces of light, got my big sippy cup of iced tea, and a good spot in the shade on the back deck. The gun came apart without great fuss, just gentle persuasion with a plastic faced mallet. OH. MY. LORD.

I really do not think this gun has been cleaned since it left Bill Ruger's place. The bore was not bad- except the ported section, with has at least 1/8th of an inch of carbon inside. THAT got a soak in Kroil. Bore got a scrub with Hoppes and a brass brush. Bolt went INTO the bottle of Hoppes.

But the action! Ahhhh! Or more correctly- ARRRGGGHHH! Not just the chamber area and the bolt channel- there was dirt all the way down the mag well. There was enuff wax in the trigger group I could have put a wick in there, and used it for a birthday candle.

Soaked metal with Hoppes. While soaking, used a small pick to pull out chunks of wax (powder solvent does not work worth a hoot on wax)

Finally tally- 1 can spray gunscrubber, 1 full LARGE can of carb cleaner, 1/2 large bottle of Hoppes. dose of Kroil, 20 Q-tips, 20 patches. 2 large clean rags. Final spray down with CLP, wipe down, re-assembly.

Will head for the range next weekend, but I find it astounding that this one shot at all. 58 years old and still shooting.

I think the EPA sees me as a hazardous waste generator, and the gun may be lighter now.
Where are the pictures dang git......
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My brothers Nylon 66. The moron asked me to fix it. He complained about it not cycling and thought that it was all busted up. I think there were squirrel parts in the feeding tube. Looked like it hadn't been cleaned since........'66 Half brother.
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I think I've got you all beat? My Dad found a Savage 20g in the woods across from our house. I forget how many years it had laid on the ground (cocked with a slug in it). It even had termites in the stock! I started the cleaning process with a grinder and sand paper. I turned it into a pretty decent shotgun and took a lot of critters with it.
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Just finished up- for now.

I thought I had seen some cruddy guns. M-60s that shot thousands of rounds on a training range. Rifles that had been slept with in a swamp for a month. Old side by side shotguns that had never been taken down for cleaning. S&Ws from a small sheriff's dept that had not been out of the holster in 6 years.

I was wrong. I had not yet seen the REALLY dirty gun. Until today.

The culprit- a .22 caliber Ruger. Call it a Mk 1. When it was made in 1957, there was no Mk II. It was a Ruger .22 auto pistol. I picked this up for a song at a local dealer. It is wearing a ported bull barrel, a non-standard micrometer rear sight, and a set over oversized walnut target stocks. Overtravel screw in the trigger. And it was D I R T Y. But it shot well.

Today was cleaning day. I marshaled the forces of light, got my big sippy cup of iced tea, and a good spot in the shade on the back deck. The gun came apart without great fuss, just gentle persuasion with a plastic faced mallet. OH. MY. LORD.

I really do not think this gun has been cleaned since it left Bill Ruger's place. The bore was not bad- except the ported section, with has at least 1/8th of an inch of carbon inside. THAT got a soak in Kroil. Bore got a scrub with Hoppes and a brass brush. Bolt went INTO the bottle of Hoppes.

But the action! Ahhhh! Or more correctly- ARRRGGGHHH! Not just the chamber area and the bolt channel- there was dirt all the way down the mag well. There was enuff wax in the trigger group I could have put a wick in there, and used it for a birthday candle.

Soaked metal with Hoppes. While soaking, used a small pick to pull out chunks of wax (powder solvent does not work worth a hoot on wax)

Finally tally- 1 can spray gunscrubber, 1 full LARGE can of carb cleaner, 1/2 large bottle of Hoppes. dose of Kroil, 20 Q-tips, 20 patches. 2 large clean rags. Final spray down with CLP, wipe down, re-assembly.

Will head for the range next weekend, but I find it astounding that this one shot at all. 58 years old and still shooting.

I think the EPA sees me as a hazardous waste generator, and the gun may be lighter now.
That pistol is going to thank you, C3. I bet it was kind of fun to see the gun all put together and cleaned up. We'll need a range report.
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I tip my hat to c3shooter & TLuker! The dirtiest I've had was a Marlin 70 pre-1968 (no SN) that I got as a parts gun. It had likely never been cleaned with heavy gum all over the internals. It ran like a champ after a thorough cleaning and lubrication.


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