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Old 11-19-2011, 10:28 AM   #1
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Well the Toyota Tacoma outlook is looking grim so I started looking at Nissan Frontiers which are relatively cheaper and offer pretty much the same functionality of a Tacoma but with the crappy interior they are known for.

Interior isn't a deal breaker for me but I prefer the Tacoma's.



Cars for Sale: 2010 Nissan Frontier SE in Kaneohe, HI 96744: Truck Details - 310550620 - AutoTrader.com


Then I found that above Truck and I think I like it...everything I wanted in a Tacoma in a 2010 with way less mileage.



And then....I fell in love with this truck.


http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=308551792&dealer_id=588389&car _year=2005&systime=&doors=&model=SSR&search_lang=e n&start_year=1981&body_style=TRUCKS&keywordsfyc=&k eywordsrep=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=b oth&distance=25&min_price=&rdm=1321697822025&drive =&marketZipError=false&advanced=&fuel=&keywords_di splay=&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2012&s howZipError=n&make2=&certified=&engine=&dma=HONOLU LU&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_ code=32&isFlashPlugin=true&transmission=&ct=u&defa ult_sort=priceASC&max_mileage=&color=&address=9686 0&sort_type=priceDESC&max_price=&make=CHEV&seller_ type=b&num_records=25&cardist=7&standard=false


I hate Chevy because of the bailouts but I'd be tempted to sell myself out for that above beut.....it reminds me of my mom's Z28 on the inside.


What do you guys think? Truck Cruiser....or just Truck.

I'm scared about the SSR because it's a relatively rare truck now....since they stopped making it...and I'm not sure what mechanical problems it had.

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If I had to pick between Toyota and Nissan it would be Toyota.

Chevy makes a good vehicle but I don't like them because of the bailouts. Stay away from the SSR, it's basically a Corvette(but kinda ghey), and while reliability isn't an issue some of the parts can get pricey.

Have you looked at Ford at all? No bailout and qaulity is just as good as anything you've listed.

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I've been directly in the auto industry for decades... I wouldn't be so quick to jump on the bailout band wagon. Literally had they not received the direct, or INDIRECT assistance, then there would have been some huge implications for the entire country. Auto has always driven the mfg sector of this country, and still does. What I'm not happy about was the bastardized bankruptcy process.

GM has some good product, and is likely to survive
Chrysler scares the hell out of me, I don't see them making beyond another 3 years
Ford is the most stable, BUT, they are now beginning to suffer the consequences of cutting too deep in '08 & '09. They'll survive, but may struggle for a couple of years.

IMO Ford and GM trucks are solid capable vehicles.

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I've been directly in the auto industry for decades... I wouldn't be so quick to jump on the bailout band wagon. Literally had they not received the direct, or INDIRECT assistance, then there would have been some huge implications for the entire country. Auto has always driven the mfg sector of this country, and still does. What I'm not happy about was the bastardized bankruptcy process.

GM has some good product, and is likely to survive
Chrysler scares the hell out of me, I don't see them making beyond another 3 years
Ford is the most stable, BUT, they are now beginning to suffer the consequences of cutting too deep in '08 & '09. They'll survive, but may struggle for a couple of years.

IMO Ford and GM trucks are solid capable vehicles.
The bailout wasnt to save gm or chrysler it was to save the union dues flowing into democrat campaign coffers. If they had of failed they would have restructured gotten out from onerous union contracts and been healthy companies. Ford is going to have the same issue soon and gm/chrysler will.soon do a repeat.


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Well the Toyota Tacoma outlook is looking grim so I started looking at Nissan Frontiers which are relatively cheaper and offer pretty much the same functionality of a Tacoma but with the crappy interior they are known for.

Interior isn't a deal breaker for me but I prefer the Tacoma's.



Cars for Sale: 2010 Nissan Frontier SE in Kaneohe, HI 96744: Truck Details - 310550620 - AutoTrader.com


Then I found that above Truck and I think I like it...everything I wanted in a Tacoma in a 2010 with way less mileage.



And then....I fell in love with this truck.


Cars for Sale: 2005 Chevrolet SSR in Kaneohe, HI 96744: Truck Details - 308551792 - AutoTrader.com


I hate Chevy because of the bailouts but I'd be tempted to sell myself out for that above beut.....it reminds me of my mom's Z28 on the inside.


What do you guys think? Truck Cruiser....or just Truck.

I'm scared about the SSR because it's a relatively rare truck now....since they stopped making it...and I'm not sure what mechanical problems it had.
Politics aside my preference is chevrolet. They just drive better as they have better road handling and the interiors are very comfy. The reason i dont like ford is drivingtheir trucks feels like im fighting the thing down the highway. Get done with a drive and its like i just fought a boxing match. Plus the seats suck and the interiors are cheap.

Stay away from the ssr unless you got lots of extra $$$$ to spare on repairs on the rare body and interior parts.
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Nissan is one of the hardest cars there is to work-on...Saab is another-one...Some cars nowdays have computer-chips just for the windows to go up and down...Just more things to go wrong if you ask me...Then again I drive a 1976 cj-5jeep and the doors and windows come off...Buy a older...Bithcin...jeep or truck...

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The Chevy you're looking at is a used 2005. It was built pre-buyout and not one penny of your transaction would make it back to Government Motors.

I know how you feel. I just purchased a new car and pretty well ruled out any new GM or Chrysler products. I did consider pre-bailout used GM's because I knew my money would be going to the local guys and not the cronies in Detroit.

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IIRC, The SSR cannot handle more than 7-800 lbs in the bed...
My dad was looking at one as well a few years ago, He was told that by the salesman, But double check to be sure, Its somewhat pointless to have a pickup that cant carry much.
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The SSR didn't have any unusual number mechanical problems, even the ones you usually see in the all-new models that don't have the bugs worked out. The are "rare" now because they completely bombed on the market. Turns out just not very many people like the way they look. Like was mentioned before with the parts being a bit pricey, I'm pretty sure the drive train is nothing super unique and parts can be found pretty easy, but if you get a busted headlight, be prepared to bend over and take it, cause that's gonna cost a pretty penny to replace.

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The bailout wasnt to save gm or chrysler it was to save the union dues flowing into democrat campaign coffers. If they had of failed they would have restructured gotten out from onerous union contracts and been healthy companies. Ford is going to have the same issue soon and gm/chrysler will.soon do a repeat.




Politics aside my preference is chevrolet. They just drive better as they have better road handling and the interiors are very comfy. The reason i dont like ford is drivingtheir trucks feels like im fighting the thing down the highway. Get done with a drive and its like i just fought a boxing match. Plus the seats suck and the interiors are cheap.

Stay away from the ssr unless you got lots of extra $$$$ to spare on repairs on the rare body and interior parts.
I'm a Ford fan, big time. And I have to agree with your assessment on Ford vs Chevy. I've told people that if I had the money to build my perfect truck, it'd be a Ford that rides and drives like a Chevy, and with a Cummins diesel.
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I'm a Ford fan, big time. And I have to agree with your assessment on Ford vs Chevy. I've told people that if I had the money to build my perfect truck, it'd be a Ford that rides and drives like a Chevy, and with a Cummins diesel.
I think you just described a Dodge 2500. Oddly enough Ford owns Cummins. I too vote no on the SSR. They are not really a truck, they just sorta look like one. You may not be old enough to remember when Ford brought out a sorta truck on the Falcon body platform. And then there were the factory station wagon conversions. The Chevy El Camino is still a popular antique/hot rod.
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