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View Poll Results: Should Canada and the US Unify?
Canada and the US should eventually become 1 united nation. 2 6.06%
We should form a union, but have separate governments. 1 3.03%
We should stay separate, but continue our strategy of united trade/military agreements. 13 39.39%
Both nations should stay completely independent. 17 51.52%
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:20 AM   #21
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Once again on the healthcare, it is a dual system in Canada, both Private and public, and in any case it could be run on a state-by-state basis, so it wouldn't be forced onto anyone who doesn't want it!
So, those who don't want it can opt out of the taxing that pays for it? You did not answer my question as to how much the average working stiff pays in income tax for the sub-par health care and other social programs.

As far as explaining why I said what I said about the Socialism, well it is a plan of the Marxists to make North America one unified country with one currency. That's great for countries like Mexico and Canada where the GNP is not even close to that of the US. Crappy for the US.

What's the population of Canada? What is the average income per capita?

The fact is that the more the US moves closer to becoming Canada, the more I think about becoming Canadian. At least the fishing and hunting is better up there. Hopefully it won't come to that.
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how bout we just make an even trade, all our welfare abusers for all of your wanna be gun owners, and we'll call it even!
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The problem lies in both countries becoming one would not want be absorbed by the other. And becoming something else entirely different means giving up ones national identity. I honestly don't see either one being willing to do that any time soon.
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The problem lies in both countries becoming one would not want be absorbed by the other. And becoming something else entirely different means giving up ones national identity. I honestly don't see either one being willing to do that any time soon.
True enough. I really think that that's the biggest issue, its not so much about pros/cons, but about politics and peoples personal patriotism. That said, are our past differences so important that our future can't accept change?

Also seeing as how both Canada and the US are federations of states/provinces that at one time or other gave up their individual autonomy to join a larger and stronger union. What changed that nowadays we won't do the same. Both nations made sacrifices to accept other states, and the states made sacrifices to join the group. I find it interesting that now neither of our nations thinks like that anymore.


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the United North America website on the first page has a stats page on it, that mentions per capita GDP - sorry I don't remember them to put it up. But GDP per capita is about the same in Canada and the US, and the average Canadian pays LESS on healthcare than the average US, and we have a longer expected lifespan... BUT we DO pay somewhat higher taxes... that I'm not too fond of!
Of course Canada has a much lower population - about 36 million to the US's what... 330?

PS. roughly one third of Canadian households own at least 1 firearm. So we're not totally unarmed!
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The problem lies in both countries becoming one would not want be absorbed by the other. And becoming something else entirely different means giving up ones national identity. I honestly don't see either one being willing to do that any time soon.
I believe you just made the case for La Raza.
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the United North America website on the first page has a stats page on it, that mentions per capita GDP - sorry I don't remember them to put it up. But GDP per capita is about the same in Canada and the US, and the average Canadian pays LESS on healthcare than the average US, and we have a longer expected lifespan... BUT we DO pay somewhat higher taxes... that I'm not too fond of!
Of course Canada has a much lower population - about 36 million to the US's what... 330?

PS. roughly one third of Canadian households own at least 1 firearm. So we're not totally unarmed!
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I am not going to argue with you. Gubmit produces no product for profit. Just sayin'.

Free is not free when people are taxed to pay for whatever social program.

Visit any Canadian hospital and then go visit any county hospital in the US. Forget the likes of the Cleveland Clinic and Mt. Sinai or the any other top 100 hospitals in the US. Tell me where you want to be treated if you had a choice.

Another "just saying" moment on the way...

The US got so strong so fast because of Capitalism. Corruption is the common factor between ALL forms of gubmit. Still, Capitalism is the best system, bar none.
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The US got so strong so fast because of Capitalism. Corruption is the common factor between ALL forms of gubmit. Still, Capitalism is the best system, bar none.
I'll have to agree with you on that. If the two joined like now in the states, each province and state would choose their own healthcare options. Private or public, or a mixture.

My hospital experience has been limited, so maybe I am not the best to comment on that.

I just see two countries that have a special relationship that so far as I can tell no other nations in the world have. I see potential for the two to be stronger. I'm not saying it should happen, but I like to think that there's potential.

Just saying!
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