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Old 02-15-2010, 06:38 AM   #11
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LOL...yeah I'm sorry, but I hate it when LE does crap like this. It is always a bay area cop that does this crap. It pieves me because when I talked to people who have these wild a$$ opinions about cops and what they do it usually stems from some stupid incident like this.

My own father in law has all these opinions about cops and public employees and most if it is because idiot cops who made the news.

Sorry I shouldn't get so worked up.
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"The targeting, harassment and intimidation of law-abiding citizens who are peacefully agitating for their rights by a police officer is an abomination to the Constitution, and is in fact the exact reason our Founding Fathers created the Second Amendment," Taylor said. "Police officers who think they are going to get between law-abiding Americans and their Second Amendment rights are going to find themselves in the line of fire."

He should move to this country & feel right at home lol
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He should move to this country & feel right at home lol
Oh, that's an ouch sandwich for you folks in Oz. That has to suck.....
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There is nothing private on the Interwebz people that a court can't get a supena for to access. Face book, My Space, twitter, cell phones, computers, laptops, youtube, forums and even your bank accounts and credit card transactions. Nothing is secure on the Interwebz, it is a public domain, and unless it is encrypted and protected, you may be somewhat protected. A court order can still be acquired for those, and hackers can gain access to all your private information, as well. But wait.....there's more!

Keep posting them private pictures and youtube videos. All of them online social forums are public domain and are monitored. Surprise!!

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A comment about civilians exercising their rights to carry openly in "East Palialto"!!

No one in their right mind would openly carry an unloaded weapon in East Palialto!!

And maybe one of you California members could verify for me, isn't a loaded magazine considered a loaded weapon in Kali? So you wouldn't even have ready access to ammunition anyway. It's a dangerous game made even more dangerous by the inane laws in California.
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A comment about civilians exercising their rights ti carry openly in "East Palialto"!!

No one in their right mind would openly carry an unloaded weapon in East Palialto!!

And maybe one of you California members could verify for me, isn't a loaded magazine considered a loaded weapon in Kali? So you wouldn't even have ready access to ammunition anyway. It's a dangerous game made even more dangerous by the inane laws in California.
I have not checked in many years, but it used to be that a loaded magazine AND the gun it went to constituted a "loaded gun".

Handguns must be transported in a locked container (there is no definition of what type of container or lock), separated from the ammunition. And with so many of the old school, common sense, LEO's retiring gun owners cannot be too careful in CA.
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The Detective opened his big yap in a public forum that he was too unsophisticated to realize was a PUBLIC FORUM. He might talk that was to his fellow officers but not at a public meeting. He is just stupid.
We cannot fix his opinion. He has the WRONG opinions about guns. He is entitled to his WRONG opinions.


WTS...he is still a douche.
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I have not checked in many years, but it used to be that a loaded magazine AND the gun it went to constituted a "loaded gun".

Handguns must be transported in a locked container (there is no definition of what type of container or lock), separated from the ammunition. And with so many of the old school, common sense, LEO's retiring gun owners cannot be too careful in CA.
yep, what he said is right. PC 12025 says a concealable firearms shall not be concealed in public. PC 12031 says any firearm shall not be loaded in public. The term loaded mean when the ammo is readily accessible or within a reasonable distance of the firearm. i.e. gun in a holster, mag in your pocket. Therefore, a CA can carry a firearm in public, but it cannot be loaded or concealed (If it is concealable). If you do it, let alone in EPA your an idiot. EPA, Oakland, Hayward are pretty much Compton with different names.
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yep, what he said is right. PC 12025 says a concealable firearms shall not be concealed in public. PC 12031 says any firearm shall not be loaded in public. The term loaded mean when the ammo is readily accessible or within a reasonable distance of the firearm. i.e. gun in a holster, mag in your pocket. Therefore, a CA can carry a firearm in public, but it cannot be loaded or concealed (If it is concealable). If you do it, let alone in EPA your an idiot. EPA, Oakland, Hayward are pretty much Compton with different names.
A good friend of mine several years ago was arrested in his driveway. He was carrying rifles from his house to his car parked in the driveway.
1) The rifles were all legal.
2) The rifles were all inside cases.
3) The rifles were all unloaded.

The reason LAPD arrested him? They said that a neighbor called them and felt that guns in cases were threatening to have around. So my friend was arrested for "Brandishing a weapon in a threatening manner".

We all took up a donation for his legal expenses and he beat it in court. But it took almost a year, his guns sat in the pokie for that time, and the monetary expense was several thousand dollar$.
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