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danf_fl 05-07-2013 06:20 PM

A Black Eye for the Air Force
 
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/air-force-officer-charged-sexual-battery-arlington/story?id=19120383

And he is in charge?

locutus 05-07-2013 07:02 PM

Whether it's the military, the Church, the Chamber of Commerce, or even the Girl Scouts, a few always manage slip through the net.

danf_fl 05-07-2013 08:19 PM

Add this, and I see one career sunk:
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/07/18107743-obama-no-tolerance-for-military-sexual-assault?lite

DFlynt 05-07-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danf_fl (Post 1240074)

But he does have tolerance for the possible sexual assault on our Libyan Ambassador on 9/11/2012! :mad:

danf_fl 05-08-2013 06:34 PM

Another update!

The military wanted to try the individual, but it is to remain in civilian hands.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/08/18125391-accused-usaf-officer-will-face-civilian-court?

Wiseman3 05-08-2013 08:52 PM

He can be tried in both. Double jeopardy does not apply to court martials.

limbkiller 05-08-2013 09:05 PM

When you throw men and women together in a society like the military it's gonna happen. Never should have expanded women's role in the first place. Doomed from the start. Gonna keep happening just the way it is.

Yunus 05-08-2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiseman3 (Post 1241037)
He can be tried in both. Double jeopardy does not apply to court martials.

Double jeopardy does apply if he is "punished" by the military but not if he is given "training". When i active Air Force training was defined as anything up to and including an Article 15, anything more including a court martial was considered punishment and meant civilian courts could not do anything about the incident.

This was one reason why dui is commonly handled with an article 15, the state can then prosecute and get the thousands in fines and the military can "train" you with 50% reduction in pay on top of that. In Alaska the state would always try for jurisdiction even if the offense occurred on base (federal) property.

locutus 05-09-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yunus (Post 1241151)
Double jeopardy does apply if he is "punished" by the military but not if he is given "training". When i active Air Force training was defined as anything up to and including an Article 15, anything more including a court martial was considered punishment and meant civilian courts could not do anything about the incident.

This was one reason why dui is commonly handled with an article 15, the state can then prosecute and get the thousands in fines and the military can "train" you with 50% reduction in pay on top of that. In Alaska the state would always try for jurisdiction even if the offense occurred on base (federal) property.


Yunus, you are correct as far as courts-Martial and federal coutrs.

However, he could be tried and punished in a state court, and then tried and puniswhed in a federal (military) court.

chuckusaret 05-09-2013 02:55 PM

Based on his face, the woman or the police did a job on him.


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