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Old 11-12-2011, 05:02 AM   #11
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ive got degenerative discs. been through one surgery about 7 years ago. before surgery i was so bad i couldnt walk more than 5 steps without collapsing. not from pain but from completly losing control of my left side from the waist down.
If I rolled out of bed and tried to stand up without sitting on the edge of the bed loosening things up and getting the blood flowing for a few minutes every morning, I would fall on my face. That was up until a few months ago..... now I get up without thinking about it and no trouble at all.
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Don't let anyone cut you until there are no alternatives and the diagnosis is confirmed by 2 specialists. Generalized lower back pain radiating down the leg can be spinal, muscular, kidney related, a blood clot in the leg, knee or foot related. In the old song...the knee bone's connected to the ankle bone...tells the tale. A change in how you walk due to a foot problem could stress your knee, change your hip rotation and cause what feels like back pain.
I agree here. I have slight scoliosis of my spine and it has cause knee, ankle and foot pain on my right side. I kind of walk 'funny'.

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I have not been cut on yet and I hear mixed stories about getting cut . My problem is they dont know whats wrong to decide if they need to cut or not .

IM 265lb carrying alot of atv wrecks , hardcore boat rides almost daily , and alot of redneck demolition derby with junk cars but have tuned it down the past few years , I got sneaky feeling it has caught up to me
I would do surgery only as a last resort. I have seen some gone bad and I have seen some with very little improvement. I'd try pretty much anything before I let anyone do surgery on me.

Can I ask how old you are? In July, I slipped and twisted my knee pretty badly. I was off work for a week. When x-rays were done, I was diagnosed with moderate osteoarthritis in my knees, elbows and right thumb. It explained a lot of my pains. When I was upset about it, the Doc told me pretty much anyone, after a certain age, will have some degree of osteoarthritis.

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I don't have a weight issue (I'm 6' 3" and weigh 175lbs) but you are absolutely right. If you are carrying too much weight that is going to screw up your back even worse. Smoking and alcohol will too. I used to drink a lot to soften the pain but I have quit drinking recently and I have never felt better.
DANG!!! 6'3" and 175 pounds?
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DANG!!! 6'3" and 175 pounds?
Yup. I've actually gained quite a bit of weight since I turned 35. I used to weigh 145. Regardless of what I did I couldn't gain weight to save my life. I worked out with weights , ate like a horse and on and on. I was in great shape, got stronger but still weighed 145 for years. Then my metabolism changed and I put on 30 pounds since then. At least I look normal now! They used to call me the Albino Ethiopian Refugee in high school!
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Sciatica was my first thought. My wife had it when she was pregnant with our kid and she was miserable. She was raised by treehuggin hippies and did the acupuncture thing and she said it helped but I sure as hell never heard a difference from the groaning.

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I've been diagnosed with degenerative disc disease. Did the shots (had 6 different sessions), discography (2 days of missed work), had a fusion don on L5 and S1 (28 days of missed work), Tims therapy, sciatic nerve extension exercises, chiropractors (one screwed my back up worse), and a chair that hangs me up-side down, etc...

Have a running script for loritab, tramadol, flexiril, ib-profen.

Currently going through the application process of getting disability. VA says it is not service-connected, although I have documents dating back to '74 showing back problems.

The only relief I get is with a back support when at work, and a place to stretch out when home.

Good luck to you and choose your options carefully.

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Yup. I've actually gained quite a bit of weight since I turned 35. I used to weigh 145. Regardless of what I did I couldn't gain weight to save my life. I worked out with weights , ate like a horse and on and on. I was in great shape, got stronger but still weighed 145 for years. Then my metabolism changed and I put on 30 pounds since then. At least I look normal now! They used to call me the Albino Ethiopian Refugee in high school!
I'll bet. There is a pharmacist here where I work. He's very tall and very, VERY thin. Almost painfully thin. One time when I worked day shift, I was behind him in the cafeteria line. He had a tray HEAPED with food, biscuits and gravy, eggs, cereal, yogurt, english muffin, milk, oatmeal. Sometimes if a department is really busy, one person will go get breakfast or lunch for everyone and bring it back. So I said, "You guys must be busy since you're bringing breakfast back for everyone." He kind of grinned and said, "No, this is all mine." Then we both just started laughing. I still see him on occasion and he always is walking around with a candy bar, a sandwich, a pop, whatever.

What makes it worse, I am the very opposite of him body structure wise.
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I'll bet. There is a pharmacist here where I work. He's very tall and very, VERY thin. Almost painfully thin. One time when I worked day shift, I was behind him in the cafeteria line. He had a tray HEAPED with food, biscuits and gravy, eggs, cereal, yogurt, english muffin, milk, oatmeal. Sometimes if a department is really busy, one person will go get breakfast or lunch for everyone and bring it back. So I said, "You guys must be busy since you're bringing breakfast back for everyone." He kind of grinned and said, "No, this is all mine." Then we both just started laughing. I still see him on occasion and he always is walking around with a candy bar, a sandwich, a pop, whatever.

What makes it worse, I am the very opposite of him body structure wise.
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One thing I noticed in my life is that people will be quick to make a comment if you are "too thin", as I am, when they would hold their tongue is someone is "under-tall". My sons both have the same body structure and we are constantly asked all of the same questions and they make the same comments as I was when I was younger.
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Dang!!! I feel right at home with all you broken down fogies!!! I've been dealing with my condition since age 13. Jpyle is spot on...DON'T LET THEM CUT YA!!! If you do, at best you'll go under the knife every few years and nobody wants that. The chiropractor worked for me but not for all people. Drugs just mask the symptoms not fix the cause. There is some really good advice here so figure out exactly what the problem is and get a 2nd and 3rd opinion/confirmation.

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[QUOTE=vincent;625915]Dang!!! I feel right at home with all you broken down fogies!!! I've been dealing with my condition since age 13. Jpyle is spot on...DON'T LET THEM CUT YA!!! If you do, at best you'll go under the knife every few years and nobody wants that. The chiropractor worked for me but not for all people. Drugs just mask the symptoms not fix the cause. There is some really good advice here so figure out exactly what the problem is and get a 2nd and 3rd opinion/confirmation.[/QUOTE

Chiropractic worked for me for many years but eventually it got to the point that it was not helping. I am seriously averse to taking pain killers of any kind because, as you say, it just masks the problem and I will add that when the pain is masked you run a very high risk of injuring yourself even more seriously if the pain isn't there to tell you when to stop. For the last year, despite my aversion to popping pills, I was taking one Sodium Naproxin (Aleve) most mornings just to get me moving for the day. Nowadays I take no pharmaceuticals whatsoever (over the counter or otherwise) I just take my herbal and essential oil supplements.

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Dang!!! I feel right at home with all you broken down fogies!!! I've been dealing with my condition since age 13. Jpyle is spot on...DON'T LET THEM CUT YA!!! If you do, at best you'll go under the knife every few years and nobody wants that. The chiropractor worked for me but not for all people. Drugs just mask the symptoms not fix the cause. There is some really good advice here so figure out exactly what the problem is and get a 2nd and 3rd opinion/confirmation.[/QUOTE

Chiropractic worked for me for many years but eventually it got to the point that it was not helping. I am seriously averse to taking pain killers of any kind because, as you say, it just masks the problem and I will add that when the pain is masked you run a very high risk of injuring yourself even more seriously if the pain isn't there to tell you when to stop. For the last year, despite my aversion to popping pills, I was taking one Sodium Naproxin (Aleve) most mornings just to get me moving for the day. Nowadays I take no pharmaceuticals whatsoever (over the counter or otherwise) I just take my herbal and essential oil supplements.
+1. spoken for truth...+1 for getting away from painkillers. I never considered that the chiropactor may become ineffective...oh boy...Very pleased to hear you've found a way to manage it, there may be hope left yet!
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