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Old 10-05-2013, 04:48 PM   #31
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The progress of any Socialist movement is measured by a concentration of central power. The dissolution of local police by forming distrust is important to the central control of the states. The loop is completed when all police are under the control of one central power structure.
...and if you can't co-opt all of them under 1 central command... You can bribe and corrupt them with Federal funding and grants in exchange for warrant less, suspicionless checkpoints.
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The progress of any Socialist movement is measured by a concentration of central power. The dissolution of local police by forming distrust is important to the central control of the states. The loop is completed when all police are under the control of one central power structure.
That will never happen as long as we have independent thinkers wearing a badge. Case(s) in point;
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/22/sheriffs-open-letter-to-obama-lock-and-load-time/
http://news.washeriff.net/open-letter-to-president-barack-obama/
http://www.wivb.com/news/erie/sheriff-defends-opposition-to-safe-act
...and the beat goes on....
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Default Aw, for the sake of all that is right & holy !!!...

...and the wimpification of our children at the hands of the our schools continues;
Elementary school outlaws playing tag, 'running in packs'

New Groningen kindergarten teachers in Grand Rapids, Michigan caused some consternation amongst parents recently with a letter they sent home that banned the game of tag and other chase-oriented games. The letter described the problem of children, "running in packs, pushing, knocking other children over, and making the game dangerous," which as we recall, was half the fun of the game. "We want our children to treat each other with respect, kindness, and with safety in mind," said Ginger Smith, community relationship manager for Zeeland Public Schools, on Friday, in an attempt to clarify the situation. Apparently, neither the school nor the district have received any direct complaints from parents regarding the policy, but at least one did contact the media.
Full story; http://now.msn.com/zeeland-public-school-in-outlaws-tag-chasing-running-in-packs/

Stupid, stupid, stupid!!! &

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...and the wimpification of our children at the hands of the our schools continues; Elementary school outlaws playing tag, 'running in packs' New Groningen kindergarten teachers in Grand Rapids, Michigan caused some consternation amongst parents recently with a letter they sent home that banned the game of tag and other chase-oriented games. The letter described the problem of children, "running in packs, pushing, knocking other children over, and making the game dangerous," which as we recall, was half the fun of the game. "We want our children to treat each other with respect, kindness, and with safety in mind," said Ginger Smith, community relationship manager for Zeeland Public Schools, on Friday, in an attempt to clarify the situation. Apparently, neither the school nor the district have received any direct complaints from parents regarding the policy, but at least one did contact the media. Full story; http://now.msn.com/zeeland-public-school-in-outlaws-tag-chasing-running-in-packs/ Stupid, stupid, stupid!!! &
I wonder what they would have thought of us jousting with broomsticks and skateboards....
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...and the wimpification of our children at the hands of the our schools continues;
Elementary school outlaws playing tag, 'running in packs'

New Groningen kindergarten teachers in Grand Rapids, Michigan caused some consternation amongst parents recently with a letter they sent home that banned the game of tag and other chase-oriented games. The letter described the problem of children, "running in packs, pushing, knocking other children over, and making the game dangerous," which as we recall, was half the fun of the game. "We want our children to treat each other with respect, kindness, and with safety in mind," said Ginger Smith, community relationship manager for Zeeland Public Schools, on Friday, in an attempt to clarify the situation. Apparently, neither the school nor the district have received any direct complaints from parents regarding the policy, but at least one did contact the media.
Full story; http://now.msn.com/zeeland-public-school-in-outlaws-tag-chasing-running-in-packs/

Stupid, stupid, stupid!!! &
Shout out to those little tag playing Law Breakers....

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I find it interesting that nobody has looked at the law on this. If I'm reading correctly LEOSA does not allow retired or off-duty officers to carry on school grounds. It is my understanding that Arizona law does, but I'm not 100% sure about that.

My personal view on this is a simple misunderstanding has escalated to the point that social web sites and the media have blown this way out of proportion. If it was my granddaughter's school I would be darn happy to see him there.

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Nearly every agency in the US has a policy stating that if an officer is in uniform, he must be armed. This is because for all practical purposes, when a police officer is in uniform, he is "on duty."

Many agencies issue "take home" units. Those that do usually have policies in place that require if a police officer to be armed and have a minimum "uniform" of a badge displayed while using the unit.

If a police officer in an agency with "take home" units is picking up his child after work or dropping off his child before work there is a 99.9% he is required by departmental policy to be armed.

Our department is so serious about this that if someone violates one of these policies and is seen in public unarmed but in uniform, they are subject to immediate termination.

LEOSA does not specifically exclude schools. It leaves the issue of where a police officer can and cannot carry up to the states (or if on federal property the feds) or private businesses to restrict police officers from carrying their firearms while off duty. LEOSA does not apply to officers openly carrying in uniform, only to those carrying concealed (concealed carry only means LEO in plain clothes. If we are in uniform we are openly carrying per office policy.)

Officers in uniform (again for all practical purposes in uniform=on duty) are always open carrying and governed by the state laws of the state in which they are currently operating in (which can change in an interdiction or pursuit).

For a state to make it illegal for a uniformed police officer to carry a gun in a specific area they would have to pass specific legislation stating such. And at that point, law enforcement would no longer respond to complaints in those areas. Certain federal properties are sometimes restricted to armed uniformed officers such as federal prisons and courthouses. State properties have similar regulations on occasion.

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Our department is so serious about this that if someone violates one of these policies and is seen in public unarmed but in uniform, they are subject to immediate termination.
To add, The Depts. I worked for made it strictly verboten to utilize a take home unit to conduct any personal business in. Such as dropping off or picking up your family members etc.
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To add, The Depts. I worked for made it strictly verboten to utilize a take home unit to conduct any personal business in. Such as dropping off or picking up your family members etc.
There is 1 agency like that in this whole region. Everybody else can use their unit inside their jurisdiction for whatever. And most agencies are fine with it being used outside of their jurisdiction with permission and a small paycheck withdrawal every month to help cover the gas.
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