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Old 03-26-2014, 09:34 PM   #1171
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rn-cindy - Our trip to Bristol ended up a night race as they had a several hour rain delay. Its pretty neat. I've only been to Martinsville and Bristol but look forward to Charlotte. Probably won't go to any other tracks but I love the small tracks - lots of acceleration and you can see the whole track.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:22 PM   #1172
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When Fiat jumps in I quit .....!
Don't you mean "jumps back in?"
Those Dodge/Fiat Chargers and Challengers would be quite a sight.


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On January 1, 2014, Fiat announced it would be acquiring the remaining shares of Chrysler owned by the VEBA worth $3.65 billion.[37] The deal was completed on January 21, 2014.[4] Several days later, the intended reorganization of Fiat and Chrysler under a new holding company,
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/exclusive-nascar-moving-toward-horsepower-reduction-in-15-032214
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Among the options being discussed are reduction in engine displacement and changes to throttle body size.
Sources familiar with the discussions say that Chevrolet and Toyota are pushing for a reduction to 5.0-liter engines, while the Ford camp is pushing for the use of tapered spacers, such as are used in the NASCAR Nationwide and Camping World Truck Series engines.
IMHO, it's about time.
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5.0 liter (or smaller) with a compression ration drop to maybe 10.5:1. (from 12:1)
Dirty up the aero packages.

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IMHO, it's about time.
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5.0 liter (or smaller) with a compression ration drop to maybe 10.5:1. (from 12:1)
Dirty up the aero packages.

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No....Back to the 426 Hemi..no restrictor plates..no speed limit on pit row...With the aero and suspensions tech they have now....... That would be cool.
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And back to carbs......and real gas....Dont know why NASCAR is trying so hard to make nice with the artsey-fartsies / Hippies / wine and cheese crowd. They already have F-1 / INDYCAR.......
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No....Back to the 426 Hemi..no restrictor plates..no speed limit on pit row...With the aero and suspensions tech they have now....... That would be cool.
The current engines make more power than the old Hemis did back in the day. The modern Chrysler/Fiat Hemis are much better engines.

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And back to carbs......and real gas....Dont know why NASCAR is trying so hard to make nice with the artsey-fartsies / Hippies / wine and cheese crowd. They already have F-1 / INDYCAR.......
NASCAR got big, that's why. The old school redneck folks are dying off or being pushed out in favor of the NYC marketing and public relations firms. Big time and big money... it's all about appealing to the maximum amount of people. Even if it comes to some laughable "green" initiative where they add a bit of alcohol to the fuel and tell everyone how green they are. Gotta get the tree hugger to at least consider the greenness of NASCAR. F1 has gone Hybrid...next thing you know...
Look at the new drivers. Half these kids look like they fell off the stage at a battle of the Boy Bands. IMHO, Austin Dillon looks like he's playing dress-up with grandpa's cowboy hat. Give them a few lessons in public speaking and make them memorize this weeks sponsor list and off you go. If they're cute enough, they might grab a chunk of the 13-17 female demographic. Crusty old Dale Sr. or DW types are a dying breed. Tony Stewart is about as close to "Old school" as it gets anymore, and he minds his manners more & more recently.
As long as they keep the racing good, I'll probably stick around to some degree. Unless they want to reinvent the cars (again), they need to get the speeds down. There's no need for 200mph straightaway speeds on 1.5 mile tracks. Downsize the power and brick up the aero and things will tighten up.
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The current engines make more power than the old Hemis did back in the day. The modern Chrysler/Fiat Hemis are much better engines.



NASCAR got big, that's why. The old school redneck folks are dying off or being pushed out in favor of the NYC marketing and public relations firms. Big time and big money... it's all about appealing to the maximum amount of people. Even if it comes to some laughable "green" initiative where they add a bit of alcohol to the fuel and tell everyone how green they are. Gotta get the tree hugger to at least consider the greenness of NASCAR. F1 has gone Hybrid...next thing you know...
Look at the new drivers. Half these kids look like they fell off the stage at a battle of the Boy Bands. IMHO, Austin Dillon looks like he's playing dress-up with grandpa's cowboy hat. Give them a few lessons in public speaking and make them memorize this weeks sponsor list and off you go. If they're cute enough, they might grab a chunk of the 13-17 female demographic. Crusty old Dale Sr. or DW types are a dying breed. Tony Stewart is about as close to "Old school" as it gets anymore, and he minds his manners more & more recently.
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, I'll probably stick around to some degree. Unless they want to reinvent the cars (again), they need to get the speeds down. There's no need for 200mph straightaway speeds on 1.5 mile tracks. Downsize the power and brick up the aero and things will tighten up.
The racing has sucked for some years now.

Last time i checked, racing was about SPEED! What car can go the FASTEST!

Questions? Read 1st line again.
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The racing has sucked for some years now.

Last time i checked, racing was about SPEED! What car can go the FASTEST!

Questions? Read 1st line again.

Check again.
Racing is about who is the best driver in the best car that day. You don't need to go 220mph to figure that out. Why are short tracks the best racing in NASCAR? It certainly isn't for the high straightaway speeds and drafting. It's the mixing it up, beating and banging. Hell, the best NASCAR race I've seen in forever was the Truck Race on Tony Stewart's dirt track. The speeds weren't especially fast, but the racing was amazing.
You want speed, go to the Bonneville Salt Flats.
You want racing, go to Bristol or Martinsville or any random short track.
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I sorta of agree with you but - NAS(tock)CAR - where does stock fit today? It doesn't.

I'm uncertain if a track like Daytona and Martinsville should both be in NASCAR. I'd like to see some dirt/clay too. I love the Sprint Cars.
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