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Bigcountry02 11-21-2010 05:48 AM

Another TSA Outrage - done to returning military from Afghan
I read this and YES - TSA are idiots!

I been through the customs inspections (the check) leaving from PSAB, Saudi Arabia and Qatar AB, Qatar to name a few.

Another TSA Outrage | RedState

As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:

When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards.

Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. Thatís where the stupid started.

First, everyone was forced to get off the planeĖeven though the plane wasnít refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.

Itís probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons werenít loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.

The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our CargoĖjust to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.

This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.

So weíre in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that theyíre going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:

TSA Guy: You canít take those on the plane.

Soldier: What? Iíve had them since we left country.

TSA Guy: Youíre not suppose to have them.

Soldier: Why?

TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.

Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And Iím allowed to take it on.

TSA Guy: Yeah but you canít use it to take over the plane. You donít have bullets.

Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?

TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. Iíll buy you a new set.

Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]

This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine gunsĖbut nothing that could have been used as a weapon.

colmustard 11-21-2010 06:27 AM

Shows you just how stupid pepole in our society have become, ( the book says this and thats waht they do, they cant think for themselves just like abunch of robots) it is a sad state we are in.:mad:

winds-of-change 11-21-2010 06:48 AM

I don't even know what to say. :confused:

Sometimes I wonder if it's just a "power tripping idiot" acting like that. I CAN make him hand over his nail clippers so I WILL make him hand over his nail clippers. Because obviously it makes no sense any other way.

doctherock 11-21-2010 07:10 AM

What a bunch of moronic ass bags.

cpttango30 11-21-2010 12:21 PM

I might have been in trouble over all this when I smashed the TSA guys face with the but of my M249 then proceeded to urinate on him. Then I would have screamed PTSD.

dunerunner 11-21-2010 03:08 PM

Absurd!! Absolutely Absurd!! This will not, I repeat, Will not deter terrorists. All this does is inconvenience the public.

The sheeple, however; think this is making air travel safer!!:rolleyes:

gregs887 11-21-2010 03:30 PM

How do those flights work? Is it a military aircraft? A chartered passenger aircraft? Are only military personnel onboard?

cpttango30 11-21-2010 05:14 PM

This was just state side but when we flew to NTC we always flew on a chartered TWA 747. Senior NCO and Officers got 1st class.

To disembark everyone and then search them you would think the ranking officer would have stepped up and said shove it TSA.

IGETEVEN 11-21-2010 05:41 PM

Never took a commercial transport anywhere while in the military, CONUS or out of country. To this day, if I fly, I always fly standby, military transport, so I never had to put up with any Mickey Mouse, BS searches. :rolleyes:

Benning Boy 11-21-2010 05:47 PM

I recall we flew commercial once, with rifles, and we had to stick the bolts in our cargo pockets.

I'd fly commercial on leave, and did get strip searched once, MPs.

When I got to my underwear, I explained that I was a grunt, and we weren't going any further. They looked at each other (smaller guys), and decided that that was gonna have to work.

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