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powg 01-16-2011 04:25 PM

another tragedy ...
 
if its true ...the boy who shot himself while shooting the uzi ,at a machine gun shoot ..could have been avoided with proper training ...he didnt uderstand recoil /flip /rise of smg ....muzzle rise flip shot himself in the head as he dad video'ed the whole thing ...

DarinCraft 01-16-2011 04:32 PM

That happened a long time ago, but if I remember correctly it was a micro uzi and the kid was about 8 years old. I'm all for allowing kids to shoot and I think it's a great idea to introduce them to FA's to eliminate the curiousity, but there are some guns kids have no business shooting. A fully automatic weapon especially one like the micro uzi who has a reputation of being hard to hold onto should have never been in the hands of a child.

cpttango30 01-16-2011 04:36 PM

HUH WHAT? what the hell are you talking about.

I have seen nothing in the news about any kids shooting himself.

Links sources??????????????/

JonM 01-16-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cpttango30 (Post 423334)
HUH WHAT? what the hell are you talking about.

I have seen nothing in the news about any kids shooting himself.

Links sources??????????????/

Boy, 8, Shoots Self With Uzi at Gun Show - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

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Boy, 8, Shoots Self With Uzi at Gun Show
Monday, October 27, 2008


WESTFIELD, Mass. — With an instructor watching, an 8-year-old boy at a gun fair aimed an Uzi submachine gun at a pumpkin and pulled the trigger as his dad reached for a camera.

It was his first time shooting a fully automatic gun, and the recoil of the weapon was too much for him. He lost control and fatally shot himself in the head.

Now gun safety experts — and some gun enthusiasts at the club where the shooting happened — are wondering why such a young child was allowed to fire a weapon used in war. Local, state and federal authorities are also investigating whether everyone involved had proper licenses or if anyone committed a criminal act.

"It's easy to lose control of a weapon like that ... they are used on a battleground for a very good reason," said Jerry Belair, a spokesman for Stop Handgun Violence, based in Newton, Massachusetts. "It's to shoot as many times as you possibly can without having to reload at an enemy that's approaching. It's not a toy. It's not something to play with."

Police said Christopher Bizilj of Ashford, Connecticut, was pronounced dead at Baystate Medical Center in Springfield, Massachusetts, on Sunday afternoon, shortly after firing a 9mm micro Uzi submachine gun at the Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo at the Westfield Sportsman's Club, co-sponsored by C.O.P. Firearms & Training.

"The weapon was loaded and ready to fire," Westfield police Lt. Hipolito Nunez said. "The 8-year-old victim had the Uzi and as he was firing the weapon, the front end of the weapon went up with the backfire and he ended up receiving a round in his head."

Nunez said the investigation is continuing.

Christopher was attending the show with his father and older brother, Colin. Christopher had fired handguns and rifles before, but Sunday was his first time firing an automatic weapon, said his father, Charles Bizilj.

Bizilj told the Boston Globe he was about 10 feet (three meters) behind his son and reaching for his camera when the weapon fired. He said his family avoided the larger weapons, but he let his son try the Uzi because it is a small weapon with little recoil.

"This accident was truly a mystery to me," said Bizilj, director of emergency medicine at Johnson Memorial Hospital in Stafford, Connecticut. "This is a horrible event, a horrible travesty, and I really don't know why it happened."

Police are calling the shooting an accident but are investigating whether everyone connected with the incident had proper weapons permits. Massachusetts requires licenses to own firearms, and the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issues different licenses to possess machine guns.

The machine gun shoot drew hundreds of people from as far away as Maine and Virginia. An advertisement said it would include machine gun demonstrations and rentals and free handgun lessons.

"It's all legal & fun — No permits or licenses required!!!!" reads the ad, posted on the club's Web site.

"You will be accompanied to the firing line with a Certified Instructor to guide you. But You Are In Control — "FULL AUTO ROCK & ROLL," the ad said.

The ad also said children under 16 would be admitted free, and both adults and children were offered free .22-caliber pistol and rifle shooting.

Massachusetts has some of the strictest gun laws in the U.S. It is legal in Massachusetts for children to fire a weapon if they have permission from a parent or legal guardian and they are supervised by a properly certified and licensed instructor, Nunez said. The name of the instructor who was with the boy at the time was not released.

"We do not know at this time the full facts of this incident," Nunez said Monday.

JonM 01-16-2011 04:49 PM

when i teach new people to guns to shoot they get a mag with exactly one round so that doesnt happen. the first round will go generally down range its panic follow up shots from fear, surprise, shock etc that get folks killed.

never know how someone is going to react. the dad shoulda been punished for criminal stupidity. dunno whatever happened to him tho.

JonM 01-16-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 7point62 (Post 423344)
Now that we are all up-to-date...:rolleyes: Thanks powg...you have a future in the news media.

dont give him a hard time he is doing better than 99.9% of the news casters out there.

CA357 01-16-2011 04:58 PM

I saw it a couple of days ago.

In the wake of the Tuscon tragedy, expect the hoplophobes to pull out all the stops. They will use anything they can find, from when Cain slew Abel to today.

Anti-gun is anti-gun and never should common sense or the facts intrude.

Davyboy 01-16-2011 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JonM (Post 423347)
when i teach new people to guns to shoot they get a mag with exactly one round so that doesnt happen. the first round will go generally down range its panic follow up shots from fear, surprise, shock etc that get folks killed.

never know how someone is going to react. the dad shoulda been punished for criminal stupidity. dunno whatever happened to him tho.

I guess the dad has got a lifetime to live with what he did

orangello 01-16-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Davyboy (Post 423357)
I guess the dad has got a lifetime to live with what he did

I'm thinking the remainder of his life will suck quite majorly.

powg 01-16-2011 05:52 PM

re kindled
 
saw it on insde edition with debra crap-pile yesterday ...they didnt say it happened 3 yrs ago ....the gun debates are gonna ramp up again .they only aired it in wake of ariz..to get ratings iguess


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