Originally Posted by bkt
Now THAT is something I can relate to. What scale do you mean? Personal or societal? Having your own ethanol still for fuel, your own solar/wind/microhydroelectric/geothermal/fuel-cell power source to get off the grid and maybe growing some or most of your food sure has its appeal!
I'm talking about a personal setup. 25kW solar, 25kW wind, 25kW diesel generator, diesel oil furnace and a decent sized biodiesel manufacturing setup. The wind/solar/generator is fully redundant as you can see by the numbers. It's about $75k worth of initial cost, but never having to pay an electric bill and not relying on a failing infrastructure is well worth it. Environmental friendliness is just a byproduct of self reliance in our case.
I'm not talking about fully segregating myself from the rest of the world, just severely reducing my dependence on it.