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Old 08-21-2012, 01:41 AM   #21
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Everything can be watched. Is it? Who knows. Stay locked and loaded and vote for Romney!
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:07 AM   #22
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I am not a lawyer, so my legal advice is worth every penny you are paying for it.

First, do not ever think that hiding behind a screen name makes you anonymous. One of our members that I WILL NOT name and I had a discussion about that, and he asked me to pull what info I could on him, with nothing but his screen name. I gave him info that included the name of his son, son's date of birth, and hospital where born. The internet is like Herpes- it is forever!

Second, there is a legal concept called "utterance against your own self interest"- better known as being stupid in public. If an LEO sitting in Mickey D's hears me state that I am building pipe bombs, he has legal justification for taking action against me- I was stupid in public. Same thing here. IF I state that I violated a law- threatening the life of a public official, cooking meth, making a short barreled shotgun without papers, etc- there is NO difference. This is a PUBLIC forum- and I would have been stupid in public.

DO government agencies monitor sites like ours? Damifino- think they would tell me? I have heard of software that will sort through postings looking for keywords. I belong to one forum for the Society of Explosives Engineers that must give them conniptions!

If someone posted a statement or photo of an action that violates law, they should have NO expectation of privacy, and could very well have that picked up by an agency, or have it reported to such agency. I personally know of none such- but I don't get out much.

Consider anything you put on the web to be written in durable paint on the side of a building.
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. . . . . . . .Consider anything you put on the web to be written in durable paint on the side of a building.
If one is going to be stupid in public, one should at least ensure they use proper grammar.

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I would guess that most truly suspicious activity in forums like this one is reported, and I'm OK with that. If some idiot is spouting off that he is going to kill somebody then they should get a visit from the authorities.

On the other hand, I would never say anything on the internet that would compromise my freedom. I also generally do not post pics that could be compromising either (or very many pics at all).

Realistically? I would bet that nearly all of the government employees who are tasked with trolling the internet for suspicious activity are really masturbating to child pornography all day long.
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VikingDad, that last paragraph was funny! good one there.

i am pretty sure in this digital age there has to be at least some form of monitoring of all things digital. once it's posted, it's in the public domain. safe bet, don't post anything you would say with big brother standing over your shoulder!
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I have seen what is now considered "terrorist" markers from DHS and then I have seen the comments that are made here...

I HAVE NO DOUBT THIS FORUM IS MONITORED FREQUENTLY!!!

If nothing else we must trigger a automated scanner several times a day simply for the regular usage of words like "Obama" "guns" and "freedom" in the same sentence (damn I just did it!)!!!
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VikingDad, that last paragraph was funny! good one there.

i am pretty sure in this digital age there has to be at least some form of monitoring of all things digital. once it's posted, it's in the public domain. safe bet, don't post anything you would say with big brother standing over your shoulder!
Ha ha! Yeah, I figured it was a risk, but what are they going to do? Send a member of NAMBLA over to tell me to knock it off? Bring it on!
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Ha ha! Yeah, I figured it was a risk, but what are they going to do? Send a member of NAMBLA over to tell me to knock it off? Bring it on!
put your tinfoil hat on before spouting off like that!
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The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)

The new NSA center is being built by Bluffdale it sits in a bowl-shaped valley in the shadow of Utah’s Wasatch Range to the east and the Oquirrh Mountains to the west. It’s the heart of Mormon country,

Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swathes of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private email’s, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.
But “this is more than just a data center,” says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handle—financial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communications—will be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: “Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.”
The whole article can be read at
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/
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