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Old 07-09-2012, 04:42 AM   #11
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first of all, there are really next to no real details about the shooting and any speculation at this point is useless. we have no idea as to why he was at this party, what type of pistol was involved or the holster that carried it, and any other pertinent details that would give a more insightful picture as to how this shooting happened. personally i want to see what details and facts come out before forming any opinions as to what happened.
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:52 AM   #12
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That's what I'm trying to get at. Does anybody know what pistol the Detroit PD issues to their officers? What are the top 3-5 holsters for that pistol? Would an off duty officer carry concealed or open? Having answers to these questions would allow us to speculate with a little more intelligence.

As I said, this story set off my BS meter rather quickly
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:20 AM   #13
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Off duty. Ever hear of a shoulder hoster? Could fire straight back into the woman's chest. WTS, I cannot imagine such an incident. Guns simply do not go off on their own.

Many many agencies do not issue handguns, but allow officers to choose their own from an approved weapons list. He was OF DUTY. Few officers carry their duty weapon while off duty. They generally choose something more compact than a full sized duty gun.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:25 AM   #14
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Off duty. Ever hear of a shoulder hoster? Could fire straight back into the woman's chest. WTS, I cannot imagine such an incident. Guns simply do not go off on their own.

Many many agencies do not issue handguns, but allow officers to choose their own from an approved weapons list. He was OF DUTY. Few officers carry their duty weapon while off duty. They generally choose something more compact than a full sized duty gun.
Ah ha thanks for the clarification big man I was under the impression that many of the larger metropolitan PD issued pistols to their officers.

So, anybody have a crystal ball and can tell us what firearm and holster this office did have? Maybe it was an accident
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It was a regular holster. The woman was a midget.
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Maybe they were 69ing while they were "hugging"
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Now some more details come to light - http://abcnews.go.com/US/detroit-woman-dead-hugging-cop-discharging-gun/story?id=16740721


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Hmmmm.

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Godbee said that the officer had been concealing his department-issued .40 caliber Smith and Wesson semiautomatic hand gun in a holster in his waistband when Miller placed her hands on his waist.

Godbee indicated that Miller had seemingly touched the gun in some way, causing it to fire. There is no safety switch on the weapon, he said.

"I don't think I'm giving anything away by saying this but for the sake of transparency, it is possible for the trigger to be manipulated with that type of holster," Godbee said. "Typically the barrel is facing down, but the preliminary investigation indicates that there was some manipulation along the officer's waistline that he did not control and subsequently the weapon discharged."
Inverted, small of the back holster possibly? Certainly appears to be a strange set of circumstances that lead to a tragic end.

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Old 07-09-2012, 08:59 PM   #19
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The plot thickens...Well, that just begs even more questions...

"The bullet traveled at an upward trajectory impacting the heart and lung" Well the IWB explains the trajectory as we all assumed it was a shoulder rig... but an IWB carrying muzzle up???

For the life of me, I can't understand how the muzzle got faced north...to be sure he didn't carry it that way...is that even possible??? And if so, why???

No matter how you slice it, the officer DID NOT have control of his gun and might very well pay dearly for that.

It happened late at night, at a social gathering, it's not too much of a leap to assume alcohol played a role...somehow.

+1 to you Dog for following up on this...
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My money says....
Cop was having an affair, they were either hurriedly getting dressed or undressed, and the gun was discharged in the process...
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