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Old 05-04-2012, 08:37 PM   #11
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Those were fuzzy days back then. I don't remember if I remember that day or not.
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Old 05-04-2012, 08:50 PM   #12
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Remember it well. I was stationed at Naval Air Station New Orleans. I had received word that I was going to be shipped out to Washington, DC. Then while walking back to the flight line, I was told that some protesting kids had gotten shot by the National Guard.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:25 PM   #13
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You join up to go overseas and shoot over there
Funny- exactly what I WAS doing at the time.

There is enough blame to go around for everybody involved- The National Guard, elected officials, civil law enforcement, AND the students involved. You will get a totally different viewpoint from each person you talk with about this.

A rather decently researched bit on this is here:

From a purely personal point of view- having been the guy in charge of the folks in green shirts and pants- unless we were receiving fire from several guns- in a platoon, there will be at MOST two people with loaded firearms. That is my designated marksman, and his backup. They will be under my direct and personal control, carefully chosen, reliable and steady. If I find someone with a firearm that is putting the lives of my soldiers in jeopardy, it would be a matter of saying "Kelly- 10 O'Clock, 200 meters, red jacket and hat- shoot him." But volley fire into a crowd? No.

That tactical handling of the protesters was not planned well- or at all. You must have a place you want to move or disperse them TO- and they must have a route(s) to leave. Trap them in an area physically- walls, fences, streams- where do you THINK they will go?
What we have here is... failure- to communicate.
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I remember this event well. I remember thinking, "How can this be happening?" There were lots of protests happening all over the country at the time but no participants had not been shot until this happened. They had been hit by batons now and then but not killed. It was a very sad time for our country.
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I was 10 years old and remember it. I didn't quite understand all that it meant, but I remember seeing the news footage. Probably in black and white, that's all we had for a long time.
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Yes I recall that day as well. The country was a "Pessure Cooker". The Antiwar, Antimilitary movement was at a fever pitch. The burning of public Bldgs, and attacks on law enforcement was ramped up every week. The whole thing got out of control. The Wall Street Protest are moving in the same direction.
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In transit for AOCS in Pensacola. Very subdued atmosphere upon arrival. I think we all were ashamed for our country at what had happened. Everyone except our D.I. He denigrated the National Guard for being bad shots.
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I remember it, I just don't remember where I was stationed at the time
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Originally Posted by PanBaccha View Post
. . The girl in the picture's last name is Vericchio. I forgot her first name. . .
Her name is Mary Ann. She was 14. I had just turned 17 and wondering what I was going to do after high school.
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I was working at the Tragic Kingdom, a.k.a. Dismaland, a.k.a. Disneyland at the time. A coworker was in the National Guard and as a result of this tragedy, the National Guard was no longer given live ammo when they were called out. So when the L.A. riots broke out, my coworker coincidentally was NOT near a television or radio or at home so he couldn't be contacted and called up. He had no urge to be driving through the riot area with an unloaded weapon.
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