Originally Posted by HockaLouis
So while Bluez is misconstruing Churchill's insight .
if he was so insightful then why was he mongering for war with Germany long before the Nazis came to power?
beofre the supposed "reasons" (liberation of the Sudetenland and invasion of Polcand) had ever happened.
(incidentally even IF the Brits propaganda had been 100% accurate, and it wasn't, it would have been still peanuts compared to business as usual among all allied powers)
If allied propaganda had been actually meant by ANYOINE the allies should have declared war Poland long before Germany did, since it was an aggressive fascist state that waged war on ALL its neighbors annexing lands that were not populated by Poles and had been doing so for 20 years.
We are all entitled to our own opinions but not our own facts and the more one studies the years prior to the war the more you realize what they write in your history books is bull****.
If the so called allies had actually belived their propaganda they would have declared war on Poland and or the soviets looong before even thinking about declaring war on Germany as both doing what the allies accused the Germans of long before and on a bigger scale.
Why didn't they?
because it was all a lie to begin with.
The war had nothing to do with "saving the west" (it actually killed "the west" and predictably so) it was simply about geopolitics and personal self-aggrandization of the major leaders of the countries involved.
And genocide was a british war aim long before the holocaust had even started.. don't .. but its ok.. since milions murded were "only" Germans.
how <dare> those evil germans not roll over like their previous colonial victims!
And I think it is what really fueled the inhuman hatred Churchill and rooseveldt had for all that was german including women and children.
it was supposed to be an EASY war!
And it wasn't and the plutocracies very nearly lost, that's what made the allied leadership so eager for mass murder and the mass starvation of Germany millions into the gulags, the biggest ethnics cleansing since the mongols. all those things were set in place before the holocaust started (early 43) and before it was known in the west (mid 44).
if the germans had won the war they would have been just as justified to put churchill and his ilk in front of war criminal proceeding.
Except they would not have been so pretentious and likely given them gentlemen's retirement in the countryside.