Unique Weapon Re-build - Page 4
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > General Discussion Forums > History > Unique Weapon Re-build

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-25-2012, 10:40 PM   #31
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Liverpool,England
Posts: 2,265
Liked 1127 Times on 542 Posts
Likes Given: 1249

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rocshaman View Post
Dang, that's a lot of pressure. Does it look like it's built to sustain pressure like that?
It must be peeps in 1850 where paying 3 times more for these than the black powder weapons of the time People with money rarely waste it.
__________________
Davyboy is offline  
3
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2012, 10:43 PM   #32
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
dog2000tj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 8,309
Liked 3735 Times on 1824 Posts
Likes Given: 13269

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Davyboy View Post
Just had a reply from an air gun forum I have asked for help. They reckon this thing could have been charged to 6000 psi. No wonder it had some hitting power.
HOLY HELL!!! ... what's a high end air rifle nowadays run 1800, 2000psi?
__________________

Member: NRA GOA

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Est sularas oth mithas

"either way, you were guilty by association, so you were smited...." JD

dog2000tj is offline  
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2012, 10:51 PM   #33
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Liverpool,England
Posts: 2,265
Liked 1127 Times on 542 Posts
Likes Given: 1249

Default

I have bought what I thought was the best of its kind. I believe this to be true, however it is the rarest and little is known about about its construction. We will discover its secrets and restore to its former glory together.

__________________
Davyboy is offline  
5
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 01:36 PM   #34
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,005
Liked 1623 Times on 696 Posts
Likes Given: 2092

Default

This is gonna be interesting.

What exactly does the key that you're replicating do?

__________________
TWMIM is offline  
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 01:47 PM   #35
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
rocshaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: KanOkla
Posts: 3,279
Liked 2144 Times on 1344 Posts
Likes Given: 2160

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TWMIM
This is gonna be interesting.

What exactly does the key that you're replicating do?
I was wondering the same thing. Does it cock the device? And is so, you have to do it every time you shoot it?
__________________
rocshaman is offline  
4
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 03:43 PM   #36
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: I see you, and you will not know when I will strike
Posts: 24,301
Liked 3479 Times on 1609 Posts
Likes Given: 3590

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Davyboy View Post
Just had a reply from an air gun forum I have asked for help. They reckon this thing could have been charged to 6000 psi. No wonder it had some hitting power.
6,000 PSI behind a .36 caliber projectile? Sweet Jesus man, the English Gentleman apparently wasn't concerned about "replying" to an assault to his honor, he was concerned with permanently ventilating the offender.

Damn, this is going to get interesting.
__________________
Dillinger is offline  
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 03:46 PM   #37
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: I see you, and you will not know when I will strike
Posts: 24,301
Liked 3479 Times on 1609 Posts
Likes Given: 3590

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TWMIM View Post
This is gonna be interesting.

What exactly does the key that you're replicating do?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rocshaman View Post
I was wondering the same thing. Does it cock the device? And is so, you have to do it every time you shoot it?
I did just the minimalist of reading when Davy first told some of us about this project and it would appear, if I understand the operation, that this will replicate the cocking of a hammer on a modern pistol.

As I believe this is a one shot at a time device, I do believe it will need to be prior to each shot, but this is designed to a very close quarters weapon, and with a .36 caliber lead ball with 6,000PSI behind it?!?

Well, suffice to say I think that will leave a hole big enough to shove one's fist in and grab the offender's very Soul.
__________________
Dillinger is offline  
3
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 04:42 PM   #38
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
rocshaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: KanOkla
Posts: 3,279
Liked 2144 Times on 1344 Posts
Likes Given: 2160

Default

I don't doubt Davy on this but I'd almost have to question his source on that 6000 psi. That's an extreme amount of pressure. The high bottom hole pressure wells I've been around are usually anywhere from 1000 to 2000 psi and they have to use some seriously heavy duty steel to handle pressures that high. I did a bit of reading too and found that some of the vintage air guns, not canes, were rated at around 800 psi.

__________________
rocshaman is offline  
NitroxAZ Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2012, 05:28 PM   #39
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Liverpool,England
Posts: 2,265
Liked 1127 Times on 542 Posts
Likes Given: 1249

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rocshaman View Post
I don't doubt Davy on this but I'd almost have to question his source on that 6000 psi. That's an extreme amount of pressure. The high bottom hole pressure wells I've been around are usually anywhere from 1000 to 2000 psi and they have to use some seriously heavy duty steel to handle pressures that high. I did a bit of reading too and found that some of the vintage air guns, not canes, were rated at around 800 psi.
My estimate was 3000psi however this was only a guess. The 6000psi was from an unknown guy on an air gun site. The truth of the matter is we will never know. When sold they recommended a certain number of strokes with the supplied pump to take it to full charge.

Found this on modern air rifles

S410 Carbine Specs - Light and short exellent range and field gun.
O/A Length 885 mm Caliber .22
Barrel Length 395 mm Stock Walnut
Weight 2.48 kg FAC Power .22 - 23 ft. lbs. (28 ft. lbs. max power)
Loading Side Lever Bolt Action
Max Fill Pressure / capacity 200 bar - 2900 psi / 181 cc (model tested 242 CC)
s410.jpg  
__________________
Davyboy is offline  
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2012, 08:50 PM   #40
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Liverpool,England
Posts: 2,265
Liked 1127 Times on 542 Posts
Likes Given: 1249

Default Got a little carried away

Figured out how to remove the internals so here goes. Some of the knobley bits meant to make the cane look more like a stick contained hidden retaining screws. Here is a picture of the removed barrel and mechanisms.

img_0242.jpg  
__________________
Davyboy is offline  
3
People Like This 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Unique pistols NGIB General Handgun Discussion 50 07-07-2013 05:52 PM
My unique project... RoynonFisher DIY Projects 50 07-27-2012 07:44 PM
Unique Shotgun 67gto General Shotgun Discussion 3 02-24-2012 12:56 PM
Unique Alpine TPG-1 ReignofTroy General Rifle Discussion 1 08-30-2010 04:26 PM
Tactical rifle weapon Build Ripper General Rifle Discussion 2 08-29-2010 06:48 AM