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Old 11-14-2012, 12:25 PM   #111
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It's an interesting thread for sure. Davy really has him something there.
It will be an interesting build for sure. I don't know anything about it, I'll have to look it up.
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Wouldn't they have used a tap and die or possibly a lathe? As far as the threads it looks like they've weathered over time. In my line of work I see threads like that all the time usually caused by corrosion of some sort. They may very well have been pristine threads when they were cut but time has taken its toll. Anyway that's just a guess.
I suspect thats whats happened the cane has been stuck in a barn or somewhere gathering rust, the threads been cleaned up to reveal whats left.
I cannot see somebody hand cutting a thread on both ends and then hand cutting the female equivalent connections.
Its bad enough trying to sort out a crossed thread on a bolt, a hand cut thread
an internal thread to fit

Just thinking about how I would go about hand cutting a thread on an 1" dia tube using a file? and a saw

I also restore Old American from the 1800, BP rifles and they have rifled barrels of all shapes and sizes.
Not wishing to bore anybody but some of the Back wood Good old Boys cut the rifling in the barrels by hand but then we are talking 1 turn every foot.
which a hell of a lot easier than cutting a 10? tpi thread on an inch dia lump of metal!
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Being an expert in this field what is your opinion of the age of this weapon. My own opinion on research carried out is around 1840 - 1860.
I dont consider myself to be an expert, its just I have had numerous air rifles air canes to sort out, and try and bring back from the point of being thrown away.

Your dating I would say is spot on, I doubt you will ever be able to pin point the date it was made even if it had a makers name.
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The file would be custom made. The lathe would likely be foot or apprentice powered. The feed would dictate the length and size of the thread.

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I suspect thats whats happened the cane has been stuck in a barn or somewhere gathering rust, the threads been cleaned up to reveal whats left.
I cannot see somebody hand cutting a thread on both ends and then hand cutting the female equivalent connections.
Its bad enough trying to sort out a crossed thread on a bolt, a hand cut thread
an internal thread to fit

Just thinking about how I would go about hand cutting a thread on an 1" dia tube using a file? and a saw

I also restore Old American from the 1800, BP rifles and they have rifled barrels of all shapes and sizes.
Not wishing to bore anybody but some of the Back wood Good old Boys cut the rifling in the barrels by hand but then we are talking 1 turn every foot.
which a hell of a lot easier than cutting a 10? tpi thread on an inch dia lump of metal!
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Few people are aware of the part air weapons played in American history.
Check this out, at the time they where far superior to there black powder equivalent. Check this out.
http://www.nranews.com/videos/Treasure+J242+Lewis+and+Clark.aspx
if anybody is interested in the air rifle that Lewis and Clark

http://www.vintageairguns.co.uk/girandoni-air-rifle/
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if anybody is interested in the air rifle that Lewis and Clark

http://www.vintageairguns.co.uk/girandoni-air-rifle/
Amazing how similar the pressure release valve and assembly is to the air cane.


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Sorry thought i had uploaded this
When I took this valve apart it was covered in a thick green paste?
It was goose grease. Nice!
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Why was it that they choose to use goose grease for these?

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Why was it that they choose to use goose grease for these?
Back in the day all that pumping to charge the chamber would cause condensation and water vapour in the chamber. Goose grease would help prevent corrosion and aid the seals in retaining pliability.
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