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Old 07-14-2013, 05:03 PM   #31
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I know a situation where a fight broke out in a gym over a basketball what had turned into 2 guns fighting that led to several other jumping into the altercation that flipped into a big fight. One guy in fight pulled his carry pistol out his bag and the big fight stopped with no one getting shot.

Just saying sometimes you can resolve a situation by just branding your Firearm.
well getting into a fight over a basketball is stupid, but pulling a gun out to stop a fight over that basketball is even more stupid.

with maturity you learn when it's wiser to walk away from a situation rather than fighting. and getting into a fight over a basketball is, well rather immature.
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well getting into a fight over a basketball is stupid, but pulling a gun out to stop a fight over that basketball is even more stupid.

with maturity you learn when it's wiser to walk away from a situation rather than fighting. and getting into a fight over a basketball is, well rather immature.
If you have an aggressive person punch you in the face and a hung fight backs out you have no control
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If you have an aggressive person punch you in the face and a hung fight backs out you have no control
i'll stand on my last statement about that. please reread it if necessary.
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If you have an aggressive person punch you in the face and a hung fight backs out you have no control
You control the situation by avoiding the thugs hanging out at the basketball court ahead of time.
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put yourself in Zimmerman's position and tell us what you would have done differently?

now also remember, you and i and most everyone else that's discussing this, has had several months to mull over the facts and think what they might have done or have done differently. Zimmerman made those choices in mere moments, not months.

he notices a person wearing dark clothing out and about with his actions looking suspicious at a late hour of the night, in a neighborhood that has already seen some burglaries in the past few weeks an your on a neighbor hood watch patrol, and have called 911 on your phone and have them on the line. you're attacked or confronted by that person.

that's pretty much what Zimmerman was facing. now put yourself in Zimmerman's shoes and tell us how you would have reacted differently.
#1 I would have just stayed in my truck and keep searching around for him if he was hidden by time law enforcement got there he would have been some where still hidden.

#2 I would not have got out my truck to go search for a suspect on foot that I lost a site on

If I did I probably would have got out hand close to gun to attempt to freeze him up before and set an attack on me. Try leave my self space not to get ambushed make sure I can see everything around me and don't got near any dark spots

But I would not put myself in that situation from the start

And an other thing Zimmerman could have did to help it maybe talk out loud

State his name

Mention he was town watch that's why he was following him

Say he don't want no trouble

Maybe he could gain trust
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i'll stand on my last statement about that. please reread it if necessary.
What made it a wild thing to see where it was at you would not expect that to even happen in front of you
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So here is my outlook for what it's worth;

We have the right to defend ourselves in this country whether we are black, white, Hispanic, Asian or whatever. If someone comes after you with the intent to harm or hurt you, you defend yourself in any way you can to preserve your life.

None of us were present at this altercation so projecting our own beliefs about Zimmermans guilt or lack-there-of is pointless. We don't know if he provoked Martin or if Martin antagonized a situation that would have let them both walk away alive and unharmed. The fact of the matter is this issue was brought before the justice system, all sides presented their evidence and a jury of Zimmermans peers found him not guilty. That's how this countries justice system is supposed to work. And it did just that. We can speculate all we want but the system did what it was designed to do.

The biggest problem is that many are making this a racial thing. Throw the color out the window and look at it from a human perspective. Two humans engaged in a struggle, resulting in the loss of one persons life. Let the facts speak for themselves not the color. God created man equal regardless of color or creed. People have forgotten this and use color to determine the outcome for many situations. Let color be color and let man be man.

As far as I'm concerned, the justice system did what it was designed to do. The evidence presented proved Zimmermans case. If it had been the other way around and Zimmerman was found guilty does that mean the system is broken? No it means the prosecution presented credible evidence that proved Zimmerman was guilty.

We need to quit projecting our own personal beliefs into stuff like this and look at the evidence. We were not in Zimmermans or martins shoes at the time of the shooting so we do not know what truly was happening or how it got to a point where a gun was used and a life was lost. That's what the justice system is for. Trust it or don't trust it but this is America and at the very least we have a right to go to trial to defend ourselves.

Personally, all of these political figure heads need to keep their mouths shut about things like this. All they do is choose sides and cause hate and discontent amongst the American people. Many people of many different ethnicities die in our country daily and you never hear about them. What makes this case so special? Nothing! This just happened to have come about during election time and was a great political platform for someone to stand on. Any other time we probably would never have even heard about this incident.
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#1 I would have just stayed in my truck and keep searching around for him if he was hidden by time law enforcement got there he would have been some where still hidden.

#2 I would not have got out my truck to go search for a suspect on foot that I lost a site on

If I did I probably would have got out hand close to gun to attempt to freeze him up before and set an attack on me. Try leave my self space not to get ambushed make sure I can see everything around me and don't got near any dark spots

But I would not put myself in that situation from the start

And an other thing Zimmerman could have did to help it maybe talk out loud

State his name

Mention he was town watch that's why he was following him

Say he don't want no trouble

Maybe he could gain trust
well you had months to think about it, and Zimmerman had moments.
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Believe it or not, there are more people who don't see this as a racial issue than do...

Take this forum for example...

Undoubtedly, 95% of the members are white males...

In the thousands of posts on this topic, not one was 'racially insensitive'...(for lack of a better term)...not a single one.

The firearm community is more up in arms about the liberal media using this tragedy as a platform to attack not only our gun rights, but also our rights to self defense...a God given right...

Why is it that the racially motivated atrocities of the 50's and 60's in the South are looked at today with such shock, disdain and condemnation, yet when the New Black Panther party puts a $10,000 bounty on the head of Zimmerman, nobody says a word about it? How can the black community not only remain silent about that, but in some cases, show support for it? All that does is validate the acts of those bigots who ran lynch mobs for decades in the South...

There is a pathetic double standard when it comes to race relations and it needs to end...

Furthermore...ZIMMERMAN WAS NOT WHITE
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why is race still an issue in this discussion?
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