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TLuker 06-27-2012 09:50 PM

MacAthur???
 
I'm just curious as to what the consensus is on MacAthur as a General? I've always heard what a great general he was, but I've never figured out what that was based on? What exactly did he do to earn so much praise?

c3shooter 06-27-2012 09:55 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_MacArthur

willshoum 06-27-2012 10:06 PM

Praise.....
 
He coined the phrase " I Shall Return "

alsaqr 06-28-2012 12:15 AM

Few folks are familiar with MacArthurs early Army history. MacArthur was recommended for the Medal of Honor in an action against Mexico in 1914. It was not awarded on a technical point. MacArthur was awarded two Distinguished Service Crosses and seven Silver Stars while serving as a Colonel in the 42nd Division in WWI. He was CG of the 42nd Division for the last two days of the war.

MacArthur was awarded a third Distinguised Service Cross and a Medal of Hornor for WWII.

MacArthur seldom wore his ribbons and decorations.

TLuker 06-28-2012 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willshoum (Post 851323)
He coined the phrase " I Shall Return "

That's sort of my point. What other general in history is famous for leaving his soldiers and his command? And he got a CMH for that?

In my opinion Patton was an arrogant ass, but brilliant.
MacArthur was just an arrogant ass. The most I can say for him was he had a knack for theatrics. Someone please correct me if I'm missing something.

TLuker 06-28-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alsaqr (Post 851432)
Few folks are familiar with MacArthurs early Army history. MacArthur was recommended for the Medal of Honor in an action against Mexico in 1914. It was not awarded on a technical point. MacArthur was awarded two Distinguished Service Crosses and seven Silver Stars while serving as a Colonel in the 42nd Division in WWI. He was CG of the 42nd Division for the last two days of the war.

MacArthur was awarded a third Distinguised Service Cross and a Medal of Hornor for WWII.

MacArthur seldom wore his ribbons and decorations.


Thanks, that really improved my opinion of him.

c3shooter 06-28-2012 02:08 AM

Having already put a rather distiguished career behind him, he retired- and was recalled to active duty just prior to the start of WW 2. His command in the Phillipines was under manned and under equipped, yet it held on fighting far beyond any expectation. THAT was what got him the Medal, not his leaving when ordered to do so. It was his strategy that carried the Allies island to island and onto Japan's doorstep.

After the surrender, he served as Military Governor of Japan. When Korea was invaded in 1950, he was the commander of UN Forces in Korea. Look up Inchon Landings.

yayamamasami 06-28-2012 03:01 AM

He was ordered to conduct a tactical withdrawal by President Roosevelt. They knew the forces in the Phillipines could not withstand the Japanese onslaught at that time. It would have hurt the US on many levels if Mac had been captured. Sometimes a soldier has to do what a soldier has to do.

michigan0626 06-28-2012 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLuker (Post 851437)
That's sort of my point. What other general in history is famous for leaving his soldiers and his command? And he got a CMH for that?

In my opinion Patton was an arrogant ass, but brilliant.
MacArthur was just an arrogant ass. The most I can say for him was he had a knack for theatrics. Someone please correct me if I'm missing something.

He was ordered by the president to leave the Philippines to Australia. His "I shall return" line was him telling the Filipino people that someday he will return to their nation. His did ceremoniously return. He was given their Legion of Honor. He is still revered in the Philippines.

Axxe55 06-28-2012 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLuker (Post 851437)
That's sort of my point. What other general in history is famous for leaving his soldiers and his command? And he got a CMH for that?

In my opinion Patton was an arrogant ass, but brilliant.
MacArthur was just an arrogant ass. The most I can say for him was he had a knack for theatrics. Someone please correct me if I'm missing something.

the thing is he was ordered to leave. really not like he had a choice in the matter. if i remember correctly he even went as high as the president, to plead his case for staying in the Phillipines. so it wasn't as though he was running away willingly, but if anything wanted to stay and support the Filipino people in resisting the Japanese army.


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