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Old 07-31-2013, 10:37 PM   #11
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The fact that the aggressor won is proof that the good guys o not always win.

But ya know, after 150 years, it's time to get over it.

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But ya know, after 150 years, it's time to get over it.
The carpetbaggers lingered for SOME time after that though and set some trends that continue today.
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Sounds like some here want to secede all over again! In the first place the North was never going to allow the South to leave the Union. The North had the manpower and industry besides the Navy to blockade Southern ports. The simple fact of Southern legal slavery kept European powers from becoming active allies. The South never had a chance to win. Shelby Foote, Civil War historian ( a Southerner himself) has stated this and believes one of the biggest underlying causes was our inability to compromise at the time.
Imagine a divided nation making it beyond the turn of the 20th Century?
Like it or not, the North won. Who knows what kind of nation we would have become if reversed? We will never know......

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Sounds like some here want to secede all over again! In the first place the North was never going to allow the South to leave the Union. The North had the manpower and industry besides the Navy to blockade Southern ports. The simple fact of Southern legal slavery kept European powers from becoming active allies. The South never had a chance to win. Shelby Foote, Civil War historian ( a Southerner himself) has stated this and believes one of the biggest underlying causes was our inability to compromise at the time.
Imagine a divided nation making it beyond the turn of the 20th Century?
Like it or not, the North won. Who knows what kind of nation we would have become if reversed? We will never know......
Actually, there's a hilariously funny sendup mock documentary

about this exact scenario,

complete with commercials and everything, called

"CSA-The Confederate States of America"...
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Really? That one must be a hoot!

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Last time I checked, South fired first.
The Civil War was a terrible war of attrition and the South simply couldn't keep up. If General Lee commanded the Northern forces, I think it could have ended in about a year.

The war was a technological revolution for warfare. The first machine guns, landmines, submarines, as well as trench warfare started in the Civil War. Unfortunately, medical technology was far behind the weapons.
The war was instigated by loud uncompromising voices on both sides. The South never had a chance. They had way more pride and indignation than industrial base. You have to acknowledge that slavering was an issue, but without it there were probably enough other sectional issues to have caused conflict. As for slavery, may the men who invented it burn in hell, because we are still living with the results of it today, in this country.
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