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Old 08-22-2014, 09:07 PM   #221
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The North invaded the South....where is Manassas ?

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Just finished reading "Crazy Horse and Custer" by Stephen E Ambrose and about 1/3 of the way thru "The Last Stand" by Nathaniel Philbrick so I'm ready.
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According to my grandfather who was told by his father who fought with Kershaw's S.C. brigade in the late unpleasantness that he fought because everyone of his neighbors did so.....
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The North invaded the South....where is Manassas ?
In northern VA.

The Confederates seized federal funds and property, then demanded removal of the federal troops from Fort Sumter. The bombardment of Sumter was an act of war.

Just as well it should have happened. Slavery anywhere in this Republic could no longer be tolerated.
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In northern VA.

The Confederates seized federal funds and property, then demanded removal of the federal troops from Fort Sumter. The bombardment of Sumter was an act of war.

Just as well it should have happened. Slavery anywhere in this Republic could no longer be tolerated.
Was Northern Va. in the Confederacy?...How can you seize what you own? The slavery question was not what my ancestors fought for,it was Northern Aggression...You come to my house and try to take my possessions and I will respond in kind...Very few southerners owned slaves....Wars are fought over treasure,not ideals....ideals are used for invasions of sovereign nations...ask the Iraqis.....
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Drafting blacks in the Confederate army was a desperate measure in the final months of the war. Even then, there was no promise of freedom for the slave conscripts.

How many were combat troops and how many were day servants and other support personnel is unknown. I do not know the story on the pensions, but the number you gave needs verification.
At the start of the war Nathan Bedford Forrest had 43 slaves, he told them that if they would fight with him at the end of the war he would give them their freedom. At the end he still had 42 with him. But according to you everyone from the South just wanted to keep their slaves, and never mind that the majority of the Southern Army was made up of poor sharecroppers that could barely afford to feed their own families much buy and feed slaves.
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According to my grandfather who was told by his father who fought with Kershaw's S.C. brigade in the late unpleasantness that he fought because everyone of his neighbors did so.....
The same thing happened all over the south. Most of the members of Company F, 31st VA Infantry were from the area around Huttonsville, WV where i grew up. Two of my Great-Grandfathers brothers were in that unit. One was killed soon after the Battle of The Wilderness. Folks signed up because their family and friends did so.
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At the start of the war Nathan Bedford Forrest had 43 slaves, he told them that if they would fight with him at the end of the war he would give them their freedom. At the end he still had 42 with him. But according to you everyone from the South just wanted to keep their slaves, and never mind that the majority of the Southern Army was made up of poor sharecroppers that could barely afford to feed their own families much buy and feed slaves.
No, I never said that "everyone from the South just wanted to keep their slaves". The majority in the Confederate army were patriotic. Many also believed that slavery was alright by God, because the n.....rs were less than human.

If Forrest's slaves loved their master more than freedom, it was their choice. So do many people across the world, to this day. If you think the Negroes were better off under slavery, go tell their descendants. I'll visit you in the hospital.
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