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Old 04-16-2014, 08:13 PM   #171
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The beginning of the Gettysburg Campaign.

The battle at Brandy Station,called Fleetwood Hill by the Confederates.
Can you imagine over 20,000 cavalry on the battlefield and this has always fascinated me.
The largest cavalry engagement ever in the States.
This was the first time the Union cavalry showed they were equal to the Southern horsemen. Approximately 11,000 Union and 9,500 Confederates.

General J.E.B. Stuart was criticized afterwards for his leadership.

http://www.civilwar.org/battlefields/brandy-station.html?tab=facts
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Hey, WY gave us Dick Cheney, the great statesman of our time. That's a lot of a person per capita.

They also have pockets of Aryan Brotherhood next door in ID. Same boyz minus the hoods. Speaking of Duke, he shed the hood too. Went to the Ukraine and there earned a PhD, FWIW. Now he runs a racially obsessed website, speaks at militia powwows and Islamic holocaust denial seminars. Avoids Germany and Austria where he would be jailed on arrival. His journey connects all the dots of hate.
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I lived long enough in Alabama to know what air some of you folks are breathing down there. I spent enough time in the locker rooms and lounges where this stuff was hanging low like pipe smoke. And I am telling anyone who is reading this, every single person who has a kind word for the "real kluckers" is racially or ethnically prejudiced.

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The beginning of the Gettysburg Campaign.

The battle at Brandy Station,called Fleetwood Hill by the Confederates.
Can you imagine over 20,000 cavalry on the battlefield and this has always fascinated me.
The largest cavalry engagement ever in the States.
This was the first time the Union cavalry showed they were equal to the Southern horsemen. Approximately 11,000 Union and 9,500 Confederates.

General J.E.B. Stuart was criticized afterwards for his leadership.

http://www.civilwar.org/battlefields/brandy-station.html?tab=facts
GA Custer at Gettysburg does not get a lot of credit for his role in the battle either. He arrived on the scene to relieve BGen John Buford's cavalry, which was now spent, and Custer immediately made a suicidal charge against JEB Stuart's cavalry, which was a success and turned the Confederates around.

Several bold actions on the Union side went into the victory at Gettysburg.
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Not even worth a comment. But it is worth putting that on ignore I have already heard more garbage than I can stand.
Thank you for the comment that I did not deserve a comment
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Can we get back on topic please???
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GA Custer at Gettysburg does not get a lot of credit for his role in the battle either. He arrived on the scene to relieve BGen John Buford's cavalry, which was now spent, and Custer immediately made a suicidal charge against JEB Stuart's cavalry, which was a success and turned the Confederates around.

Several bold actions on the Union side went into the victory at Gettysburg.
Actually he did lead a charge but it was the 1st NJ and Third Ohio cavalry that saved his bacon as he was about to be overrun.
Here's the history.

The battle raged intensely as both sides fought it out with the saber and pistol. The two sides pushed back and forth with neither side gaining an advantage. However soon the fact that Custer was so outnumbered began to show as the Confederate troopers began to gain the upper hand. However elements of the Union cavalry such as the 3rd PA and the 1st NJ witnessed the change in momentum and knew that action had to be taken. Captain William E. Miller led the 3rd PA in a charge into the tangling mass. The charge cut off the Confederate mass by nearly a third and drove all the way to the Rummel Farm buildings, straight across the length of the field. Capt. Miller then reformed his line and charged all the way back again to Lott's woods. The 1st NJ then emerged from the Low Dutch Road and entered into the fray. The Union cavalry reinforcements caused the Confederate charge to slow down and lose it's momentum. It was also unclear to Staurt's cavalrymen how many Union cavalrymen they faced. The Confederate troopers of Lee's brigade and Hampton's brigade withdrew back to the shelter of Cress Ridge and the woods past the Rummel Farm. The Union troopers pursued the retreating Confederates however J.E.B. Stuart rallied the 1st Virginia cavalry and it temporarily stopped the Union pursuit before being overwhelmed and scattered leaving the Union troopers in control of the field. The battle at East Cavalry Field was over.
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Sounds right. Custer deserves credit for that, but gets very little.

His name is only mentioned in conjunction with Little Big Horn.
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Sounds right. Custer deserves credit for that, but gets very little.

His name is only mentioned in conjunction with Little Big Horn.
maybe because of his ego and arrogance, it got himself and everyone else killed in that battle. clearly a great legacy to leave behind.
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Sounds right. Custer deserves credit for that, but gets very little.

His name is only mentioned in conjunction with Little Big Horn.
Custer is best know for being a murderous POS who killed women and children in winter camps.
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