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Old 07-19-2012, 12:22 PM   #41
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[QUOTE=c3shooter;871925]Please don't. This thread is about a visit to Auschwitz. Politics thread is over there.[/QUOTE I under stand your concern. But then again ask your self why the Jews, and Hitlers insane idea that the germans were the master race, smart yes, but completely ignorant when it came to common sense......Politics, religion, and the search for more gold...........

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Here's a little take on the Holocaust that has got me into some trouble from time to time. I ask people how many people were killed in the extermination camps of the Nazis. Now if your first thought was six million, then you are mistaken. That is nowhere near the number. That number is utterly wrong.

Getting mad? If you thought six million then probably yes, you are. And if you think it was six million then you have just dismissed the other four million or so, Poles, Russians, homosexuals communists, the mentally ill, gypsies and a whole swathe of others. I don't know about USA, but in UK so many people are fixated on the six million figure, which is the number of Jews killed that the other four million or more are effectively disenfranchised from their fate in the Holocaust.

The crime of the Nazis was to industrialise mass murder. Horrifying, it's true, but within the capabilities of any nation if the wrong triggers are pressed. If you want horrifying cruelty, mass murder to a level that would make the Nazis look like the Red Cross, take a moment to check out the history of the Japanese in china before and during the last war. Germ warfare practised on villages chosen purely for weather conditions to test the effectiveness of bubonic plague bombs. Autopsies carried out on still living victims of the plague to examine the effects of the disease on living tissue. Routine cannibalism of prisoners, yes, Europeans and Americans too, officially authorised by senior officers. Mind boggling cruelty as a daily pastime. The thousands of 'comfort women' forced to work in soldiers brothels in inhuman conditions. That all went largely unpublicised and unpunished to serve western politics. The scum that were responsible for most of this evil, such as the commander of Unit 731, a man every bit as evil as Mengele, are buried in a shrine that is visited and honoured by Japan's rulers. Can you imagine the fuss if Angela Merkel laid a wreath on Megele's grave?

I do not, and could not, seek to detract from The holocaust, but it must be understood, or it will be repeated. I nearly forgot. Uncle Joe knocked Germany into a cocked hat when it came to mass murder numbers.

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I agree with you UK,and here in America we have problems with people who utilize victimhood to form special interest groups that manage to do just that- change the narrative of history,whilst managing to detract from the whole picture,which,IMHO,does no one any real good.

We go from the truth,which is that a dictatorial national socialist workers party managed to industrialize the logical extreme (mass murder -democide- by omnipotent government of those "not worthy" to live) of the championed pseudo science --eugenics-- of pretty much all the socialist types, to a politically corrected genocide of Jews by racist fascists.

They try to paint the issues with their own colors,and what they're doing is trying to white wash history to tell the tale to excuse themselves.

Progressive socialism (like your Fabian socialism) has been in America since the late 1800's,and among their most ardent advocates today there are many Jews who cannot face the reality that socialism and big government in general is evil and a threat to humanity,so they try to excuse their collaboration with evil by changing historical fact.

I,myself,see these Jews not only as manipulative liars,but as traitors not only to America,but also as traitors to Judaism as well.

To me,they're as bad as the holocaust deniers.

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I under stand your concern. But then again ask your self why the Jews, and Hitlers insane idea that the germans were the master race, smart yes, but completely ignorant when it came to common sense......Politics, religion, and the search for more gold...........
Take a look at the apathy Americans have today toward our own government. Many are unaware of what's going on - just like in Germany back then. A lack of common sense wasn't the problem, but ignorance and apathy are lethal. Germans haven't cornered the market on those human characteristics.

Your earlier comments advocating genocide disgust me, but your comments provide us all an understanding why we must never forget what was perpetrated by the Nazis.
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This is why citizens must be armed by their own decision and without having to register or tell the government anything about their firearms ownership.

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Ultimately,floppy,yes.Yes it is.

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